Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:
 On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:

 ...This is the
 new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
 aquired 5 years earlier...

 I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
 middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
 that I can't see.

 I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
 knows what
 they are?


Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
differend graphic cards built in). You may know enough to help if you
are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
2 lines of my post shows). Do you for example know from where the driver
gets the bogus physical display size 508 x 317 from, and why it insists
on using it instead of the configured size?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Dale

Erik wrote:

2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:
   

On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:

 

...This is the
new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
aquired 5 years earlier...
   

I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
that I can't see.

I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
knows what
they are?
 


Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
differend graphic cards built in). You may know enough to help if you
are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
2 lines of my post shows). Do you for example know from where the driver
gets the bogus physical display size 508 x 317 from, and why it insists
on using it instead of the configured size?
   


Are you using hal?  If so, you may need to get or change the config 
files so that it will run at the settings you want instead of what it 
detects.


By the way, I have no idea how to edit them.  It's in xml.  You may can 
google and borrow their config file tho.


If you are not using hal, it should be set in xorg.conf.  I don't use 
hal and that is where mine is set.


Hope that gives you a couple ideas.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
2010-07-16 08:13, Dale skrev:
 Erik wrote:
 2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:
   
 On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:

 
 ...This is the
 new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old
 INSPIRON|8600
 aquired 5 years earlier...

 I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
 middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
 that I can't see.

 I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
 knows what
 they are?
  

 Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
 the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
 differend graphic cards built in). You may know enough to help if you
 are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
 2 lines of my post shows). Do you for example know from where the driver
 gets the bogus physical display size 508 x 317 from, and why it insists
 on using it instead of the configured size?


 Are you using hal?  If so, you may need to get or change the config
 files so that it will run at the settings you want instead of what it
 detects.

 By the way, I have no idea how to edit them.  It's in xml.  You may
 can google and borrow their config file tho.

 If you are not using hal, it should be set in xorg.conf.  I don't use
 hal and that is where mine is set.

Yes I am using hal. Maybe that is the problem. But it is clear from the
log file that xorg.conf is read anyway.



[gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread walt

On 07/15/2010 11:03 PM, Erik wrote:

2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:

On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:


...This is the
new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
aquired 5 years earlier...


I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
that I can't see.

I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
knows what they are?




Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
differend graphic cards built in).


Ah, I understand now.  I was expecting the information to be relevant.


You may know enough to help if you
are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
2 lines of my post shows)...


I know a little about it.  It is no longer maintained by xorg or nvidia, so
that may be part of the problem if you are using recent nvidia hardware.

A commonly asked question is does it work as expected with the vesa driver?
(Vesa does not include 2D/3D acceleration, obviously, but it should at least
give you correct results for an ordinary console.)

The open-source 'nv' driver has been replaced by the open-source 'nouveau'
driver, which is still very much a work in progress.  I'm using it just to
experiment -- I don't need 2D/3D acceleration, but maybe you do.  If so, you
need to use nvidia's proprietary 'nvidia' driver because it's the only choice
you have at present.

All of the drivers I mentioned are in gentoo portage in the xf86-video-* series.

nouveau suppport in the kernel needs a bit of annoying fiddling with the
kernel config file to get it right.  I can help with that if you want to try
it.




[gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread walt

On 07/16/2010 01:14 AM, Erik wrote:

...The actual hardware is reported by lspci as
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce
9600M GS] (rev a1).


That seems to be very new hardware.

I'm using xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_pre20100615, and in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
I see:

(II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
RIVA TNT(NV04)
RIVA TNT2   (NV05)
GeForce 256 (NV10)
GeForce 2   (NV11, NV15)
GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
GeForce 3   (NV20)
GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
GeForce FX  (NV3x)
GeForce 6   (NV4x)
GeForce 7   (G7x)
GeForce 8   (G8x) -- oops! stops at GF8
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:00:0





[gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-15 Thread walt

On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:


...This is the
new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
aquired 5 years earlier...


I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the middle of a
long thread with lots of previous questions and answers that I can't see.

I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else knows what
they are?