[gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yes, very sure. You can't use autofs on a system that is using hald...

Aha. Care to expand on that? Please also explain the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ps awux | grep -v grep | grep '\(auto\|hald\)'
102   5506  0.0  0.3   4980  2220 ?Ss   Nov30   0:08 /usr/sbin/hald 
--use-syslog
root  5507  0.0  0.1   2892  1020 ?SNov30   0:00 hald-runner
102   5513  0.0  0.1   1976   764 ?SNov30   0:00 
/usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
102   5518  0.0  0.1   1976   736 ?SNov30   0:00 
/usr/libexec/hald-addon-keyboard
root  5530  0.0  0.0   1868   572 ?SNov30   0:04 
/usr/libexec/hald-addon-storage
root 27181  0.0  0.1   1784   716 pts/8S16:15   0:00 
/usr/sbin/automount --timeout 600 --pid-file /var/run/autofs.mnt.HD.pid /mnt/HD 
file /etc/autofs/auto.hd
root 27192  0.0  0.1   1780   716 pts/8S16:15   0:00 
/usr/sbin/automount --timeout 30 --pid-file /var/run/autofs.mnt.handies.pid 
/mnt/handies file /etc/autofs/auto.obex

Thanks!

 You can  
 modify hal actions via config files to play nice with cdroms and such, but 
 you never get hal to leave cf cards alone.

Why should hal leave CF cards alone?

 On my own personal view, the way that kde handles things with hal, dbus and 
 pmount are kinda of kludgy. 

Well, KDE...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:41:55 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:

 That's probably because you're running two automounters, which are
 conflicting. You don't need autofs, and probably should not run it, when
 using KDE's system.

Why should autofs not be running when KDE is used?

 The KDE system is also more flexible

How do you make use of media:/ files with normal (ie. non-KDE)
applications?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 1. Dezember 2006 16:19 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar:

  That's probably because you're running two automounters, which are
  conflicting. You don't need autofs, and probably should not run it,
  when using KDE's system.

 Why should autofs not be running when KDE is used?

I guess he meant: Should not run to automount the same device. I happily use 
both, but for different purposes.  For filesystems on the local harddisk I 
use autofs and hald for removeable media.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:44 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote:

  That's probably because you're running two automounters, which are
  conflicting. You don't need autofs, and probably should not run it,
  when using KDE's system.  
 
 Why should autofs not be running when KDE is used?

Because you'll get exactly the problem the OP mentioned, with two systems
trying to control the same device.

  The KDE system is also more flexible  
 
 How do you make use of media:/ files with normal (ie. non-KDE)
 applications?

They're mounted under /media.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Ryan Sims

On 12/1/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:19:44 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote:

  That's probably because you're running two automounters, which are
  conflicting. You don't need autofs, and probably should not run it,
  when using KDE's system.

 Why should autofs not be running when KDE is used?

Because you'll get exactly the problem the OP mentioned, with two systems
trying to control the same device.

  The KDE system is also more flexible

 How do you make use of media:/ files with normal (ie. non-KDE)
 applications?

They're mounted under /media.



If I'm thread hijacking, let me know, but it seems related to me: what
is it that mounts things under /media?  I seem to have a couple things
fighting for devices, none of which obey my udev or fstab rules,
seemingly.  I *think* the contenders are udev (which doesn't mount
anything, but it's not creating the symlinks I want),
gnome-volume-manager, hal and pmount (not sure about that last, I'm
not at my system now.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:50:29 -0500, Ryan Sims wrote:

 If I'm thread hijacking, let me know, but it seems related to me: what
 is it that mounts things under /media?  I seem to have a couple things
 fighting for devices, none of which obey my udev or fstab rules,

You don't need fstab entries for automounting with pmount.

 seemingly.  I *think* the contenders are udev (which doesn't mount
 anything, but it's not creating the symlinks I want),

You're right, udev doesn't mount anything, it only creates the device
nodes.

 gnome-volume-manager, hal and pmount (not sure about that last, I'm
 not at my system now.)

Those three, along with d-bus, are responsible for your automounting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best method for automounting...

2006-12-01 Thread Ryan Sims

On 12/1/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:50:29 -0500, Ryan Sims wrote:

 If I'm thread hijacking, let me know, but it seems related to me: what
 is it that mounts things under /media?  I seem to have a couple things
 fighting for devices, none of which obey my udev or fstab rules,

You don't need fstab entries for automounting with pmount.

 seemingly.  I *think* the contenders are udev (which doesn't mount
 anything, but it's not creating the symlinks I want),

You're right, udev doesn't mount anything, it only creates the device
nodes.

 gnome-volume-manager, hal and pmount (not sure about that last, I'm
 not at my system now.)

Those three, along with d-bus, are responsible for your automounting.


Ok, then I think I have an automounting cage fight.  I think it has to
do with having KDE and gnome on the same system (don't ask, I'm in the
middle of a wm transition).  First, I need to learn more about the
different systems, and I'll stop commandeering this thread.

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