Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 04:19:54 Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2010-07-03, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
  response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
  area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
  full screen, etc.) The fix they suggest does not work with the
  problem I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
  
  I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for
  html 5 to do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.
 
 While Flash has it technical faults, the main problem with flash is
 it's user-base.  It seems to be used primarily in two situations:
 
   1) When you're trying to hide the fact that the site content
  completely sucks.
 
   2) When you're too incompetent to do a good interface design.
 
 Perhaps if Flash weren't around, it's user-base would find some other
 equivalent way to blight their audince, but Flash is just so _good_ at
 it.

Did I say, my favourite addon for FF is flashblock? :-))
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:54:56 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
   On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
 On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
  Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
  
  Grant a écrit :
   I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
   pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted
   firefox, but flash still isn't working.  It works in opera. 
   Any ideas?
  
  Try with another new profile :
  $ firefox -ProfileManager
 
 Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
 still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
 
 I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...

Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
nspluginwrapper.

Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your
plugins - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but
the ebuild does it all automatically.
   
   Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control panel
   to ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths were
   correct) and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube just
   shows the circular video loading graphic and nothing much happens -
   despite the fact that the network gkrellm shows the download is taking
   place ...
  
  I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing
  mentioned in it helped me:
  
  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465
 
 This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
 response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash area
 first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it full
 screen, etc.)  The fix they suggest does not work with the problem I am
 trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.

I filed this bug: 326841

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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 10:35:06 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:54:56 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
   On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
  On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
   Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
   
   Grant a écrit :
I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I
deleted pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I
restarted firefox, but flash still isn't working.  It works
in opera. Any ideas?
   
   Try with another new profile :
 $ firefox -ProfileManager
  
  Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
  still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
  
  I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
 
 Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
 nspluginwrapper.
 
 Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your
 plugins - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but
 the ebuild does it all automatically.

Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control
panel to ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths
were correct) and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube
just shows the circular video loading graphic and nothing much
happens - despite the fact that the network gkrellm shows the
download is taking place ...
   
   I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing
   mentioned in it helped me:
   
   http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465
  
  This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
  response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
  area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
  full screen, etc.)  The fix they suggest does not work with the problem
  I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
 
 I filed this bug: 326841

The problem seems to be that the new Opera will not follow symlinks to the 
plugin, in particular it will not follow:

/usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so - 
/opt/netscape/plugins32/libflashplayer.so

although it reports it as the plugin path in about:plugins.

So, removing the symlink and cp /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so 
to /opt/netscape/plugins32/libflashplayer.so fixes the problem.  Of course, 
the real fix should be with opera which suddenly stopped following the 
symlink.  Hopefully the bug report will be followed upstream.  Until then the 
copied file works for me.
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-03 Thread Mick
On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
 Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
 
 Grant a écrit :
  I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
  pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
  flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
 
 Try with another new profile :
 
   $ firefox -ProfileManager

Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but still works 
in FF-3.6.4.  o_O

I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-03 Thread Grant
   I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
   pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
   flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
 
  Try with another new profile :
      $ firefox -ProfileManager

 Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but still
 works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O

 I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...

 Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
 nspluginwrapper.

 Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your plugins - the
 command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but the ebuild does it all
 automatically.

Fixed by emerging nspluginwrapper.  Thanks everyone!

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
   On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
 Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
 
 Grant a écrit :
  I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
  pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox,
  but flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
 
 Try with another new profile :
   $ firefox -ProfileManager

Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O

I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
   
   Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
   nspluginwrapper.
   
   Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your plugins
   - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but the ebuild
   does it all automatically.
  
  Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control panel to
  ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths were correct)
  and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube just shows the
  circular video loading graphic and nothing much happens - despite the
  fact that the network gkrellm shows the download is taking place ...
 
 I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing mentioned
 in it helped me:
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465

This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a response 
(as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash area first and 
then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it full screen, etc.)  The 
fix they suggest does not work with the problem I am trying to solve with 
Opera-10.60 though.

I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for html 5 to 
do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-03, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
 response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
 area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
 full screen, etc.) The fix they suggest does not work with the
 problem I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.

 I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for
 html 5 to do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.

While Flash has it technical faults, the main problem with flash is
it's user-base.  It seems to be used primarily in two situations:

  1) When you're trying to hide the fact that the site content
 completely sucks.

  2) When you're too incompetent to do a good interface design.

Perhaps if Flash weren't around, it's user-base would find some other
equivalent way to blight their audince, but Flash is just so _good_ at
it.
  
-- 
Grant





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-02 Thread netfab
Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
Grant a écrit :
 
 I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
 pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
 flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?
 

Try with another new profile :

$ firefox -ProfileManager



[gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-06-30, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
 plugin won't work.  I tried both x86 and ~x86 versions, and both
 crash 100% of the time.

The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
in ~/.mozialla/plugins.  After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
that directory, FF then found the officially installed 10.x version
and is now happy.

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  at   ... Now I have to go
  gmail.comadminister FIRST-AID to my
   pet LEISURE SUIT!!




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-01 Thread Grant
 Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
 plugin won't work.  I tried both x86 and ~x86 versions, and both
 crash 100% of the time.

 The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
 in ~/.mozialla/plugins.  After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
 that directory, FF then found the officially installed 10.x version
 and is now happy.

I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?

- Grant (a different Grant)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-01 Thread netfab
Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:06:04 -0700,
Grant a écrit :

  Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the
  flash plugin won't work.  I tried both x86 and ~x86 versions,
  and both crash 100% of the time.
 
  The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was
  left in ~/.mozialla/plugins.  After deleting the flashplayer plugin
  from that directory, FF then found the officially installed 10.x
  version and is now happy.
 
 I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
 ~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?
 

Close firefox and go to your profile directory.
  (~/.mozilla/firefox/.something)
In this directory, you should find a file : pluginreg.dat
You can try to remove it.

A few days ago I realized that I had two different versions of the flash
plugin registered in this file.



[gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-01, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
 plugin won't work. ?I tried both x86 and ~x86 versions, and both
 crash 100% of the time.

 The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
 in ~/.mozialla/plugins. ?After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
 that directory, FF then found the officially installed 10.x version
 and is now happy.

 I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
 ~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?

Search for libflashplayer.so files.

Another of my machines had an old one in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.
That should have been a symlink to /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
which is where the ebuild puts the file.

While the old files in ~/.mozilla/plugins were udoubtedly due to a
stupid human trick on my part, I don't know how I ended up with an old
file instead of a symlink in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.

I think all of my machines now have a working flashplayer plugin...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-01 Thread Grant
 Firefox got upgraded from 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 yesterday, and now the flash
 plugin won't work. ?I tried both x86 and ~x86 versions, and both
 crash 100% of the time.

 The problem was caused by an old 9.x copy of the plugin that was left
 in ~/.mozialla/plugins. ?After deleting the flashplayer plugin from
 that directory, FF then found the officially installed 10.x version
 and is now happy.

 I'm having the exact same problem, except I don't have a
 ~/.mozilla/plugins directory at all.  Any ideas?

 Search for libflashplayer.so files.

 Another of my machines had an old one in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.
 That should have been a symlink to /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
 which is where the ebuild puts the file.

I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted firefox, but
flash still isn't working.  It works in opera.  Any ideas?

- Grant