[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo, LWS and Slackware for linux learner?

2005-05-24 Thread askar ...
Thanks everybody for reply to my message.
Now I'm beginning to understand.

askar

On 5/23/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear everybody!
 
 I have one topic to discuss.
 I'm not native speaker in english, but I will try.
 
 My first linux was Debian. I began using it in 1999 in fall, just
 because my senior course mate was using it. After that for me it was
 interesting to install several distros: Mandrake, Miracle, Turbo,
 Vine, Red Hat, Suse, Slackware. I didn't use them for a long time - I
 just installed them for fun, but trying to find my own distro. Before
 Gentoo, I used to think that Debian is better (not the best - because
 I'm not good at linux to say which is the best) than other distros.
 One year ago I tried gentoo and I feeled that maybe this is what I was
 looking for. Even know I use gentoo at home. I don't use linux at work
 - linux is my hobby. In the mean time I still try other distros to see
 how do they look like, but not so often as before. Saying again, I
 don't have strong knowledge to say which is the best linux for me, so
 I estimate the best linux for my only basing on the easy-to-use
 distro. Of course, this is a matter of taste, any person has his own
 favorite distro. In gentoo I liked the portage and emerge concept,
 that I can build my own system and make it for my hardware (if I
 install from stage 1). But, on the other hand emerge does for us
 installations, compilations, dependency checks, etc - we do not
 compile by hand. If I'm not wrong we can put Gentoo, Slackware and LFS
 distros on the same line - I mean they're all source based distros. As
 far as I know Slackware there is no emerge-like tools - I have to do
 everything manually. Here at
 http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major written about
 Slackware ...if you need help with your Linux box, find a Slackware
 user. A Slackware user is more likely to fix the problem than a user
 familiar with any other distribution Is it true? This is one
 question. Also, it seems most of current gentoo users had experience
 with other distro, so they have rich experience in linux, and this
 help them to solve linux-generic problems. In my case, I would like to
 learn linux as deep as possible. Is it ok if I use emerge-like,
 apt-get-like comfortable tools? That was my second question. What you
 recommend for those, who would like to learn linux from fundamentals?
 In order to do so, I think, learner has to do everything manually. I
 haven't installed LFS distro before, so I don't know is it like
 Slackware or not, but as the name says, this is linux from sratch,
 like gentoo...
 I think, answers to this thread will be interesting not only for me,
 but also for many ML participants.
 Thanks in advance.
 
 askar


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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo, LWS and Slackware for linux learner?

2005-05-22 Thread askar ...
Sorry again and againg.
In subject line, read LFS instead LWS.

askar

On 5/23/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, in the subject line I mean LSF instead LWS.
 
 askar
 
 On 5/23/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear everybody!
 
  I have one topic to discuss.
  I'm not native speaker in english, but I will try.
 
  My first linux was Debian. I began using it in 1999 in fall, just
  because my senior course mate was using it. After that for me it was
  interesting to install several distros: Mandrake, Miracle, Turbo,
  Vine, Red Hat, Suse, Slackware. I didn't use them for a long time - I
  just installed them for fun, but trying to find my own distro. Before
  Gentoo, I used to think that Debian is better (not the best - because
  I'm not good at linux to say which is the best) than other distros.
  One year ago I tried gentoo and I feeled that maybe this is what I was
  looking for. Even know I use gentoo at home. I don't use linux at work
  - linux is my hobby. In the mean time I still try other distros to see
  how do they look like, but not so often as before. Saying again, I
  don't have strong knowledge to say which is the best linux for me, so
  I estimate the best linux for my only basing on the easy-to-use
  distro. Of course, this is a matter of taste, any person has his own
  favorite distro. In gentoo I liked the portage and emerge concept,
  that I can build my own system and make it for my hardware (if I
  install from stage 1). But, on the other hand emerge does for us
  installations, compilations, dependency checks, etc - we do not
  compile by hand. If I'm not wrong we can put Gentoo, Slackware and LFS
  distros on the same line - I mean they're all source based distros. As
  far as I know Slackware there is no emerge-like tools - I have to do
  everything manually. Here at
  http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major written about
  Slackware ...if you need help with your Linux box, find a Slackware
  user. A Slackware user is more likely to fix the problem than a user
  familiar with any other distribution Is it true? This is one
  question. Also, it seems most of current gentoo users had experience
  with other distro, so they have rich experience in linux, and this
  help them to solve linux-generic problems. In my case, I would like to
  learn linux as deep as possible. Is it ok if I use emerge-like,
  apt-get-like comfortable tools? That was my second question. What you
  recommend for those, who would like to learn linux from fundamentals?
  In order to do so, I think, learner has to do everything manually. I
  haven't installed LFS distro before, so I don't know is it like
  Slackware or not, but as the name says, this is linux from sratch,
  like gentoo...
  I think, answers to this thread will be interesting not only for me,
  but also for many ML participants.
  Thanks in advance.
 
  askar
 


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