[gentoo-user] Re: Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 10 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 We plan to eval Gentoo.  We await 2008 final.

Why? What features are you expecting?

 The comment is, Gentoo 
 home page gives no clue about status.  Convincing people that Gentoo
 is alive becomes tricky because the final is months late and little
 motion on the home page.  That's about all most people inspect.

You are right, many people take conclusions from superficial looks.

 So bottom line, impressions of Gentoo are going south even before we
 test.

I don't think we should make Gentoo more appealing, you can attract 
people that later will dislike its lack of eye-candy, better be 
honest :-)

 Some sort of progress bar or chart showing bugs squashed and new
 reported, maybe??  At least some kind of ticker showing expected
 final release date?  Counting lines of code or something?

 Personally I don't care when final ships - just knowing present
 expectations or status with an easy home page glance is all I ask.

Unlike other distros, Gentoo evolves linearly, not by leaps (releases). 
Indeed there's no strong distinction between updates and upgrades, if 
you keep it up-to-date, already have the latest release.

Ciao
Francesco

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[gentoo-user] Re: Home page slowness

2008-05-10 Thread James
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes:


 The OP has inadvertently given us some valuable feedback, which stands on its 
 own and is irrelevant with the fact that he (like many other non-gentoo 
 users) had mistaken Gentoo for yet-another-binary-distro.  Having a user 
 friendly website that also caters to the needs of newcomers to the Gentoo 
 scene, requires that the key features and benefits of Gentoo are easily 
 visible/accessible.  Not many people will navigate to hidden Statistics pages 
 to draw their own conclusions.  These could be users that one day prove 
 valuable contributors.  I suggest that we spring clean the website and 
 consider our new visitors needs at the same time (plus things like the much 
 asked for Documentation search field?).  

Some months ago, when we all argued about the necessity of having a polished
installation CD, many of the more technical folks alluded to the fact that
it's really not necessary, as there are a myriad of ways to install Gentoo.
We, who use it regularly, know that at any given point you do not need an
official installation CD to install Gentoo. Very true.


However, as a major Linux distro, I used the analogy of Green teeth as
our first impression. This (potentially) new user, and the corporation
where he works, was about to base their entire opinion of Gentoo, based on the
status of the installation CD. For all of those that blasted me, with technical
truths, I have now *A BIG FAT GRIN*!

The question we should all ask is, how often does this happen, and
we never know about it? Like it or not, the installation CD(s) are like
a first kiss, from a woman. We should make a good impression, as that
may be the only chance we get, to grow our membership, into the best
(meta) distro on the planet.

Vindication is very sweet.


Seeya,
James




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