Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop,
 and I love it. I also want a tablet with it.

 Are you using any of the extensions Linus was discussing?

I'm using the Remove Accessibility Extension, so the accessibility
icon doesn't appear in the top bar; the Auto Move Windows Extension,
so Emacs is always in virtual desktop 1, Chrome in virtual desktop 2,
etc.; and the Weather indicator Extension, to know that it's
raining. That's all the extensions I'm using; in my desktop I also use
Alternative Status Menu Extension to be able to hibernate (suspend
to disk) it: I can suspend to RAM just fine, but I like to save power.

I don't remember the extensions Linus mentioned.

 I'm using
 gnome3 in fallback mode because most of my machines are too old to
 have the hardware needed to run ghome-shell.  I haven't tried any
 gnome3 extensions yet on my one new machine that will run gnome-shell.

I have an nvidia card in my desktop, with the nouveau drivers. My
laptop uses a simple intel card; but run the full GNOME experience; I
actually don't like the fall back mode.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 04:00 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
  BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop,
  and I love it. I also want a tablet with it.
 
  Are you using any of the extensions Linus was discussing?
 
 I'm using the Remove Accessibility Extension, so the accessibility
 icon doesn't appear in the top bar; the Auto Move Windows Extension,
 so Emacs is always in virtual desktop 1, Chrome in virtual desktop 2,
 etc.; and the Weather indicator Extension, to know that it's
 raining. That's all the extensions I'm using; in my desktop I also use
 Alternative Status Menu Extension to be able to hibernate (suspend
 to disk) it: I can suspend to RAM just fine, but I like to save power.
 
 I don't remember the extensions Linus mentioned.
 
  I'm using
  gnome3 in fallback mode because most of my machines are too old to
  have the hardware needed to run ghome-shell.  I haven't tried any
  gnome3 extensions yet on my one new machine that will run gnome-shell.
 
 I have an nvidia card in my desktop, with the nouveau drivers. My
 laptop uses a simple intel card; but run the full GNOME experience; I
 actually don't like the fall back mode.
 
 Regards.

The weather extension I am using is very inaccurate - if it says rain,
it could have at some point a few daya ago ... or in the future ... hard
to tell (for Western Australia).  There is no weather map/radar map.  At
least gnome2 displayed the metar data from the airport which is spot on.
This almost seems like a different location (though its actually common
for overseas sources of local weather data to be really way off - my
samsung galaxy phone is similar, and prior to that the apps on a nokia
n900 ... same).

The fonts are really screwed up - I have two gnome 3 systems, one after
trying to follow a few guides just looks crappy but I can read them, the
other (crt, not lcd) keeps getting corrupted (almost looks like it is
selecting wingdings or a chinese glyph font) so you have to log out/in
to be able to read things - nothing else seems to work.  Sometimes its
the titlebars or just desktop icon titles, other times the panels in
evolution and firefox, or everything.

Its quite unreliable on both systems, dropping dead (restarting X) or
requiring logging out/in or manually restarting X from a console to get
control at least once a day.

Then there is the new workflow model ... its crap!  The unbuntu folks at
work have been wrestling with it longer than me and seem lukewarm on the
whole thing even after having plenty of time to get used to it.  Then
there is the constant jibes from the windows users  - at least when win8
comes out I'll be able to laugh back at them (or is it cry along with
them :)

I am trying to persevere as its the coming thing ... that is, I
thought it would be until I tried it and realised its just a bad dream.
A lot of problems (lack of stability) are obviously bugs and will be
fixed.  The crappy extensions, ditto when someone gets around making
real ones instead of hacks to quickly fill the holes left by not having
any functionality built in (by the way, having an extension to restart
the shell because it gets corrupted is a prime example of whats wrong
with gnome at the moment :(  The extension installation via a browser
looks good until you start to think of the security implications ... it
feels very apple-ish in a bad kind of way - giving up control to a
third party you dont really know/trust.

BillK








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:03:36 William Kenworthy wrote:

 The weather extension I am using is very inaccurate - if it says rain,
 it could have at some point a few daya ago ... or in the future ... hard
 to tell (for Western Australia).  There is no weather map/radar map.  At

Here is a weather radar for Perth, along with the local forcast.

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR703.shtml
http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/map.shtml

More radar locations can be found at http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/radar/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 20:24 +1000, Paul Colquhoun wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:03:36 William Kenworthy wrote:
 
  The weather extension I am using is very inaccurate - if it says rain,
  it could have at some point a few daya ago ... or in the future ... hard
  to tell (for Western Australia).  There is no weather map/radar map.  At
 
 Here is a weather radar for Perth, along with the local forcast.
 
 http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR703.shtml
 http://www.bom.gov.au/wa/forecasts/map.shtml
 
 More radar locations can be found at http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/radar/
 
 

Been using those for years - along with scripts for screen scraping to
extract the image and insert it into the gnome2 weather app - cant find
a way do that with gnome 3, maybe I should pull the source and try and
make something that works, and is accurate ... need more hours in the
day tho.

BillK








[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Gnome3

2012-06-16 Thread walt
On 06/16/2012 12:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 BTW, using GNOME 3 for more than one year in my laptop and desktop,
 and I love it. I also want a tablet with it.

Are you using any of the extensions Linus was discussing?  I'm using
gnome3 in fallback mode because most of my machines are too old to
have the hardware needed to run ghome-shell.  I haven't tried any
gnome3 extensions yet on my one new machine that will run gnome-shell.