[gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager

2018-12-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-12-02, Daniel Frey  wrote:
> On 12/2/18 11:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> 
>> MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless"
>> server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision.
>
> Yes, it was a dumb decision. However, I suppose it's better than having 
> to edit that by hand... they could've uses a cli or curses interface or 
> something.

A web UI has been pretty much the standard way to of doing things like
that for the past few decades.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager

2018-12-02 Thread Bill Kenworthy
ratpoison is a good option for mythtv - no mouse but it maps keyboard to
window manager functions.  Ideal for using a remote as its easy to map
the keys.

BillK


On 3/12/18 4:54 am, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 12/2/18 11:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless"
>> server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision.
>
> Yes, it was a dumb decision. However, I suppose it's better than
> having to edit that by hand... they could've uses a cli or curses
> interface or something.
>
>>
>> That said, it's been many years since I've run MythTV.  I switched to
>> SageTV because of the brilliantly small and silent set-top-boxes. But
>> Google bought SageTV and pulled the plug on that, so a year or two
>> back I switched to Plex (which you configure via a web UI).  The Plex
>> plugin for OSMC/Kodi has a clumsy UI, but works pretty well.  However,
>> the Plex app for Roku seems to be useless...
>>
>
> I've only ever run MythTV. Lately though I use Kodi with Kodi's Myth
> plugin on all TVs but my living room TV and computer.
>
> Usually when I'm doing work to this I'm physically in front of it.
> Fluxbox seems nice, going to try windowmaker and it's terminal but gcc
> barfed compiling Objective-C support. Trying it again... one of my PCs
> compiled the objc USE-flag fine, and the other didn't.
>
>
> Dan
>




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager

2018-12-02 Thread Daniel Frey

On 12/2/18 11:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:


MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless"
server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision.


Yes, it was a dumb decision. However, I suppose it's better than having 
to edit that by hand... they could've uses a cli or curses interface or 
something.




That said, it's been many years since I've run MythTV.  I switched to
SageTV because of the brilliantly small and silent set-top-boxes. But
Google bought SageTV and pulled the plug on that, so a year or two
back I switched to Plex (which you configure via a web UI).  The Plex
plugin for OSMC/Kodi has a clumsy UI, but works pretty well.  However,
the Plex app for Roku seems to be useless...



I've only ever run MythTV. Lately though I use Kodi with Kodi's Myth 
plugin on all TVs but my living room TV and computer.


Usually when I'm doing work to this I'm physically in front of it. 
Fluxbox seems nice, going to try windowmaker and it's terminal but gcc 
barfed compiling Objective-C support. Trying it again... one of my PCs 
compiled the objc USE-flag fine, and the other didn't.



Dan



[gentoo-user] Re: Small (as in footprint) window manager

2018-12-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-12-02, Jack  wrote:
> On 2018.12.01 23:21, Daniel Frey wrote:

>> I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I  
>> am normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for something.
>> 
>> [...]
>>
>> This all stems from occasionally needing a gui for configuring
>> mythtv or the ability to have two shells open side by side.

> What about not installing xorg at all on that box, and just ssh'ing in  
> from a different PC with full desktop setup  when you need a gui?

That's mostly what I used to do when I ran a headless MythTV server.
You have to have all the X11 _client_ stuff installed on the MythTV
server, but you don't actually have to have an X11 server on the
MythTV server.  You can run the MythTV GUI configuration program
remotely via the normal command line magic "DISPLAY=
mythtv-setup", or you can let ssh -X/-Y options handle it for you with
somethi8ng like "ssh -X mythtv-setup@my-mythv-server".

MythTV's requirement to use a GUI setup program on a "headless"
server, always seemed like a massively stupid design decision.

That said, it's been many years since I've run MythTV.  I switched to
SageTV because of the brilliantly small and silent set-top-boxes. But
Google bought SageTV and pulled the plug on that, so a year or two
back I switched to Plex (which you configure via a web UI).  The Plex
plugin for OSMC/Kodi has a clumsy UI, but works pretty well.  However,
the Plex app for Roku seems to be useless...

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