Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suspend and Hibernation not working on XFace desktop [SOLVED]

2020-01-17 Thread Mick
On Friday, 17 January 2020 11:18:22 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Mick and All,
> 
> On Saturday, 2019-12-21 12:22:31 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > A Gentoo user with consolekit and xfce should kindly check their settings
> > and compare with yours to see if something is amiss.  I'm thinking, any
> > xfce regression bugs ought to affect more than one user at a time, so you
> > shouldn't be alone in this.
> 
> Well, it's been a while ...
> 
> In my attempt to hunt down this bug I stumbled upon more than one omiss-
> ion, glitch, misinterpretation, you name it that had crept into my init-
> ial Gentoo installation.   And since I had to fix these anyway, progress
> on the initial problem was somewhat slow.
> 
> Eventually I found that
> 
>$ ck-list-sessions
>$
> 
> just returned nothing.   There wasn't any  ConsoleKit session running at
> all!  I was using "x11-misc/sddm" as a desktop manager and something had
> made it stop starting a ConsoleKit session before starting Xfce.  I nev-
> er found out what, but found a workaround.  Before it starts Xfce "sddm"
> sources "~/.xsession", if it exists.  Therefore running
> 
>$ echo 'exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session $@' >
> ~/.xsession
> 
> once and then rebooting solves the problem.   Within the script sourcing
> "~/.xsession" the arguments "$@"  will expand to the command  (including
> arguments)  configured to  start your session  ("startxfce4" in my case)
> and the "exec" prefix will simply prevent this script  from running "$@"
> twice.  However, since I also had other reservations about "sddm" I dec-
> ided to replace it with "lightdm" which correcly ran out of the box (ex-
> cept for configuring the background image and -- most importantly -- the
> keyboard layout for entering the password).  And "lightdm" does not need
> "~/.xsession".
> 
> So finally a big thank you to all the kind people trying to help ... :-)
> 
> Sincerely,
>   Rainer

Glad you got this going and thanks for posting back in case others come across 
the same problem.

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Suspend and Hibernation not working on XFace desktop [SOLVED]

2020-01-17 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Mick and All,

On Saturday, 2019-12-21 12:22:31 +, you wrote:

> ...
> A Gentoo user with consolekit and xfce should kindly check their settings and 
> compare with yours to see if something is amiss.  I'm thinking, any xfce 
> regression bugs ought to affect more than one user at a time, so you 
> shouldn't 
> be alone in this.

Well, it's been a while ...

In my attempt to hunt down this bug I stumbled upon more than one omiss-
ion, glitch, misinterpretation, you name it that had crept into my init-
ial Gentoo installation.   And since I had to fix these anyway, progress
on the initial problem was somewhat slow.

Eventually I found that

   $ ck-list-sessions
   $

just returned nothing.   There wasn't any  ConsoleKit session running at
all!  I was using "x11-misc/sddm" as a desktop manager and something had
made it stop starting a ConsoleKit session before starting Xfce.  I nev-
er found out what, but found a workaround.  Before it starts Xfce "sddm"
sources "~/.xsession", if it exists.  Therefore running

   $ echo 'exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session $@' > 
~/.xsession

once and then rebooting solves the problem.   Within the script sourcing
"~/.xsession" the arguments "$@"  will expand to the command  (including
arguments)  configured to  start your session  ("startxfce4" in my case)
and the "exec" prefix will simply prevent this script  from running "$@"
twice.  However, since I also had other reservations about "sddm" I dec-
ided to replace it with "lightdm" which correcly ran out of the box (ex-
cept for configuring the background image and -- most importantly -- the
keyboard layout for entering the password).  And "lightdm" does not need
"~/.xsession".

So finally a big thank you to all the kind people trying to help ... :-)

Sincerely,
  Rainer



[gentoo-user] Re: Suspend and Hibernation not working on XFace desktop

2019-12-21 Thread Mick
On Friday, 20 December 2019 16:14:00 GMT you wrote:
> Mick,
> 
> On Friday, 2019-12-20 13:55:29 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > If you can't run suspend/hibernate it may be polkit policies are not
> > allowing you to run these commands via dbus.  However, polkit policies
> > are
> > automatically installed/updated as required by the packages you have on
> > your system.  For example, this is what I have on my desktop (KDE):
> > 
> > $ pkaction | grep susp
> > org.freedesktop.login1.inhibit-handle-suspend-key
> > org.freedesktop.login1.suspend
> > org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-ignore-inhibit
> > org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-multiple-sessions
> > 
> > $ pkaction | grep hibernate
> > org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate
> > org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-ignore-inhibit
> > org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions
> > org.freedesktop.login1.inhibit-handle-hibernate-key
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> $ pkaction|\grep -E 'hiber|susp'
> org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.hibernate
> org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.hibernate-multiple-users
> org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend
> org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend-multiple-users
> $

Hmm ... clearly we have a difference in polkit authorised actions between our 
two systems.  I use elogind, but don't have a box with consolekit to compare.

[snip ...]
> In "/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/"  are only  three rules files,  the first and
> last one being copied by me from the internet somewhere,  the second one
> being original:
> 
># cd /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
># for f in *; do echo  $f; cat $f; done
> 10-admin.rules
>polkit.addAdminRule(function(action, subject) {
>return ["unix-group:wheel"];
>});
> 50-default.rules
>/* -*- mode: js; js-indent-level: 4; indent-tabs-mode: nil -*- */
> 
>// DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, it will be overwritten on update
>//
>// Default rules for polkit
>//
>// See the polkit(8) man page for more information
>// about configuring polkit.
> 
>polkit.addAdminRule(function(action, subject) {
>return ["unix-user:0"];
>});
> 50-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.rules
>polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
>if (action.id.indexOf("org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.") == 0 &&
> subject.isInGroup("plugdev")) { return polkit.Result.YES;
>}
>});
>#
> 
> > ...

I only have the 50-default.rules, I suspect you copied 10-admin.rules from:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Polkit


> > These are the USE flags for polkit on this system:
> These are the polkit USE flags here:
> 
>$ eix -l sys-auth/polkit|grep Installed
> Installed versions:  0.115-r4(15:10:56 22/10/19)(consolekit gtk
> introspection nls pam -elogind -examples -jit -kde -selinux -systemd -test)
> $
> 
> The only differences I see are  that you are using "elogind" rather than
> "consolekit", and that I'm using "gtk" while you are using "kde".

Yes, this is as it should be.


> If someone could point me  to any missing policy rules,  I would be glad
> to add them.
> 
> Sincerely,
>   Rainer

The thing is you shouldn't have to add polkit actions or rules manually.  As I 
understand it any userspace applications which require access to system 
services should install any rules as dependencies.

A Gentoo user with consolekit and xfce should kindly check their settings and 
compare with yours to see if something is amiss.  I'm thinking, any xfce 
regression bugs ought to affect more than one user at a time, so you shouldn't 
be alone in this.

PS. I had a look at the interwebs for your problem and a user mentioned upower 
(as I did in a previous message) - do you have upower installed?  The xfce 
desktop should have installed this as a dependency:

sys-power/upower
 Available versions:  
0.99.9-r1 (0/3) [doc +introspection ios selinux 
KERNEL="FreeBSD linux"]
   ~0.99.11   (0/3) [doc +introspection ios selinux 
KERNEL="FreeBSD linux"]
 Installed versions:  0.99.9-r1(0/3)(10:05:06 14/06/19)(introspection -doc 
-ios -selinux KERNEL="linux -FreeBSD")
 Homepage:https://upower.freedesktop.org/
 Description: D-Bus abstraction for enumerating power devices, 
querying history and statistics


PPS. This page mentions some troubleshooting steps which you may have not been 
through yet:

https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-power-manager/faq

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Suspend and Hibernation not working on XFace desktop

2019-12-20 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Mick,

On Friday, 2019-12-20 13:55:29 +, you wrote:

> ...
> If you can't run suspend/hibernate it may be polkit policies are not allowing 
> you to run these commands via dbus.  However, polkit policies are 
> automatically installed/updated as required by the packages you have on your 
> system.  For example, this is what I have on my desktop (KDE):
> 
> $ pkaction | grep susp
> org.freedesktop.login1.inhibit-handle-suspend-key
> org.freedesktop.login1.suspend
> org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-ignore-inhibit
> org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-multiple-sessions
> 
> $ pkaction | grep hibernate
> org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate
> org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-ignore-inhibit
> org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions
> org.freedesktop.login1.inhibit-handle-hibernate-key

Here it is:

$ pkaction|\grep -E 'hiber|susp'
org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.hibernate
org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.hibernate-multiple-users
org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend
org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend-multiple-users
$

And using "--verbose" I get:

   $ pkaction --action-id org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.hibernate --verbose
   org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.hibernate:
 description:   Hibernate the system
 message:   System policy prevents hibernating the system
 vendor:
 vendor_url:
 icon:  
 implicit any:  no
 implicit inactive: no
 implicit active:   yes

   $ pkaction --action-id org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend --verbose
   org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.suspend:
 description:   Suspend the system
 message:   System policy prevents suspending the system
 vendor:
 vendor_url:
 icon:  
 implicit any:  no
 implicit inactive: no
 implicit active:   yes

   $

In "/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/"  are only  three rules files,  the first and
last one being copied by me from the internet somewhere,  the second one
being original:

   # cd /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
   # for f in *; do echo  $f; cat $f; done
    10-admin.rules
   polkit.addAdminRule(function(action, subject) {
   return ["unix-group:wheel"];
   });
    50-default.rules
   /* -*- mode: js; js-indent-level: 4; indent-tabs-mode: nil -*- */

   // DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, it will be overwritten on update
   //
   // Default rules for polkit
   //
   // See the polkit(8) man page for more information
   // about configuring polkit.

   polkit.addAdminRule(function(action, subject) {
   return ["unix-user:0"];
   });
    50-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.rules
   polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) {
   if (action.id.indexOf("org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.") == 0 && 
subject.isInGroup("plugdev")) {
   return polkit.Result.YES;
   }
   });
   #

> ...
> These are the USE flags for polkit on this system:

These are the polkit USE flags here:

   $ eix -l sys-auth/polkit|grep Installed
Installed versions:  0.115-r4(15:10:56 22/10/19)(consolekit gtk 
introspection nls pam -elogind -examples -jit -kde -selinux -systemd -test)
   $

The only differences I see are  that you are using "elogind" rather than
"consolekit", and that I'm using "gtk" while you are using "kde".

If someone could point me  to any missing policy rules,  I would be glad
to add them.

Sincerely,
  Rainer