Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is the best audio system?
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 04:14:25 +0200 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 28/02/12 04:07, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I use pulseaudio on my laptop and desktop. Is there something else out there that can handle multiple audio streams? alsa dmix Isn't dmix pretty much automatic in als these days? I suspect that's how KDE supports multiple audio streams by default. Yep, I think it's automatic since alsa 1.0.9 or so. Yeah, when you wrote dmix the light turned on about how KDE (and I suspect most desktop managers) is likely doing it. GNOME uses PulseAudio by default, and since 3.0 is actually mandatory. I believe Xfce uses PA also, and (please, tell me if I'm wrong) KDE also by default uses PA. Nope. KDE uses whatever is supported by the Phonon backend. The default is GStreamer, meaning that whatever GStreamer uses, KDE uses too. Thanks for all of your help folks. Reading all the responses was quite educational. It seems that I will be sticking with pulseaudio. -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best audio system?
On 27/02/12 23:50, Willie Matthews wrote: Right now I use pulseaudio on my laptop and desktop. Is there something else out there that can handle multiple audio streams? Plain ALSA? Or OSSv4? Both handle multiple audio streams just fine.
[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best audio system?
On 28/02/12 04:07, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I use pulseaudio on my laptop and desktop. Is there something else out there that can handle multiple audio streams? alsa dmix Isn't dmix pretty much automatic in als these days? I suspect that's how KDE supports multiple audio streams by default. Yep, I think it's automatic since alsa 1.0.9 or so. Yeah, when you wrote dmix the light turned on about how KDE (and I suspect most desktop managers) is likely doing it. GNOME uses PulseAudio by default, and since 3.0 is actually mandatory. I believe Xfce uses PA also, and (please, tell me if I'm wrong) KDE also by default uses PA. Nope. KDE uses whatever is supported by the Phonon backend. The default is GStreamer, meaning that whatever GStreamer uses, KDE uses too.
[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best audio system?
On 28/02/12 04:30, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:07:21PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Isn't dmix pretty much automatic in als these days? I suspect that's how KDE supports multiple audio streams by default. Yep, I think it's automatic since alsa 1.0.9 or so. Yeah, when you wrote dmix the light turned on about how KDE (and I suspect most desktop managers) is likely doing it. GNOME uses PulseAudio by default, and since 3.0 is actually mandatory. I believe Xfce uses PA also, and (please, tell me if I'm wrong) KDE also by default uses PA. KDE has the phonon layer, which features a PA useflag, but also a flag for gstreamer and vlc. These are not related though. PA is not a substitute for gstreamer or vlc.
[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best audio system?
On 28/02/12 04:30, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:07:21PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Isn't dmix pretty much automatic in als these days? I suspect that's how KDE supports multiple audio streams by default. Yep, I think it's automatic since alsa 1.0.9 or so. Yeah, when you wrote dmix the light turned on about how KDE (and I suspect most desktop managers) is likely doing it. GNOME uses PulseAudio by default, and since 3.0 is actually mandatory. I believe Xfce uses PA also, and (please, tell me if I'm wrong) KDE also by default uses PA. KDE has the phonon layer, which features a PA useflag, but also a flag for gstreamer and vlc. These are not related though. PA is not a substitute for gstreamer or vlc.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is the best audio system?
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 28/02/12 04:30, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:07:21PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Isn't dmix pretty much automatic in als these days? I suspect that's how KDE supports multiple audio streams by default. Yep, I think it's automatic since alsa 1.0.9 or so. Yeah, when you wrote dmix the light turned on about how KDE (and I suspect most desktop managers) is likely doing it. GNOME uses PulseAudio by default, and since 3.0 is actually mandatory. I believe Xfce uses PA also, and (please, tell me if I'm wrong) KDE also by default uses PA. KDE has the phonon layer, which features a PA useflag, but also a flag for gstreamer and vlc. These are not related though. PA is not a substitute for gstreamer or vlc. Indeed, but both GStreamer and VLC can run on top of PulseAudio. They can also (of course) run on top of ALSA, but then you loose all the nice things PA provides. At least with GStreamer (directly on top of ALSA) you don't get per-application volume, seamlessly changing sound cards or easy integration with USB soundcards and bluetooth headsets; I don't use VLC, but I believe is the same. ALSA is the bottom of the stack, PulseAudio goes above it, and then you can have GStreamer, VLC, ffmpeg, Xine-lib or whatever, which are the high-level libraries. All of the high-level libraries cantalk to ALSA directly; but none of them provide by themselves the features that PulseAudio has. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
