[gentoo-user] Re: make.conf bindist

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On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:22:06 + (UTC)
James  wrote:

> This did fix my problems. Before Firefox was auto-named 'aurora' in
> the lxde menu. Now, without bindist, the name changed to 'firefox'. I
> sure other names changed, but I was focused on aurora-firefox so I
> did not save a list. I'm not sure if bindist changed the actual
> name of the executable, as  'aurora' was always launched from the
> lxde menu, on that system.

There's a bug related to this.¹  Until recently, Firefox with
USE="bindist" did just result in an unbranded Firefox, but now it
results in an unbranded Firefox which also behaves significantly
differently than branded Firefox.  I suspect this has to do with
upstream's move to allowing only Mozilla-signed extensions in branded
Firefoxes, whereas unsigned extensions will continue to work in
unbranded Firefoxes,² but I haven't tried to get to the details.

1 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536682

2 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Addons/Extension_Signing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf bindist

[Rich Freeman]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Matthew Marchese
 wrote:
>
> This is an excellent explanation of the flag. Will you give me permission to
> use it or re-word it for a wiki page concerning bindist?
>

Certainly, do whatever you wish with it.

It might even make sense to put a mention in the handbook.  This is
the flag that probably comes closest to distinguishing between the
Debian-like and Ubuntu-like experience as far as pure-FOSS licensing
goes.  There are many who prefer each and with Gentoo you get your
choice.

-- 
Rich

[gentoo-user] Re: make.conf bindist

[James]

Rich Freeman  gentoo.org> writes:


>  gentoo.org> wrote:
> > This is an excellent explanation of the flag. Will you give me
permission > > to  use it or re-word it for a wiki page concerning bindist?

This did fix my problems. Before Firefox was auto-named 'aurora' in the
lxde menu. Now, without bindist, the name changed to 'firefox'. I sure other
names changed, but I was focused on aurora-firefox so I did not save
a list. I'm not sure if bindist changed the actual name of the
executable, as  'aurora' was always launched from the lxde menu, on that system.


> Certainly, do whatever you wish with it.
> It might even make sense to put a mention in the handbook.  This is
> the flag that probably comes closest to distinguishing between the
> Debian-like and Ubuntu-like experience as far as pure-FOSS licensing
> goes.  There are many who prefer each and with Gentoo you get your
> choice.


Gentoo-user is full of useful 'tidbits' of information. We rarely capture
those facts into the wiki. Any data_mining of gentoo_user
into the wiki would be keenly a wonderful idea, imho.

hth,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make.conf bindist

[Matthew Marchese]

Rich,

This is an excellent explanation of the flag. Will you give me 
permission to use it or re-word it for a wiki page concerning bindist?


I see lot blockers where either openssl or openssh need it, when the 
other does not...


Matthew
On 8/5/2015 5:29 PM, James wrote:

Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes:



So, set it per your preference.  Since the stage3 was built with
USE=bindist it sets it by default, and that is the safer preference in
any case.  License-purists might prefer to leave it this way and that
gives you an experience similar to debian main repository, etc.


All good
to know.

thx,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: make.conf bindist

[James]

Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes:


 So, set it per your preference.  Since the stage3 was built with
 USE=bindist it sets it by default, and that is the safer preference in
 any case.  License-purists might prefer to leave it this way and that
 gives you an experience similar to debian main repository, etc.


All good 
to know.

thx,
James