Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new box

2007-10-23 Thread Philip Webb
071023 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:30:58 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
 (1) it refused to compile 'sandbox' with some error;
 this is often fixed by 'FEATURES=-sandbox emerge -1 sandbox'

It was fixed, as were errors in compiling Glibc  Gcc,
by enabling 'IA32' in the kernel: IIRC this isn't mentioned in the dox.

 (2) it can't find 'revdep-rebuild' despite saying I should run it !
 emerge gentoolkit, doesn't the message that tells you to run it
 tell you how to get it?

The issue is why the package providing a necessity like 'revdep-rebuild'
is not included in the 'system' list, but has to be emerged separately.
Does anyone have an explanation (smile) ?

The new machine (Intel Core 2 Duo 6750; memory 1066 MHz) is lightning-fast;
the 2003 box (AMD Athlon 2500+; memory 400 MHz) is no sloth,
but the new one is  c 3 times  faster (earlier downloads were  c 5 min ) :

  gtk+-2.10.14  13 m 5 m  1 s
  xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r116 m 6 m 15 s
  glibc-2.6.1   41 m13 m  4 s + download
  gcc-4.1.2 87 m34 m 19 s + download

It makes up for all those years I used my little XT (due for a museum)
to access a UoT mainframe, being too poor to upgrade
(which did prevent me from ever taking up M$ Windows (big grin)).

As always, thanks to all the devs who make Gentoo work so well.

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[gentoo-user] Re: new box

2007-10-22 Thread Philip Webb
071022 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 20 October 2007, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Philip Webb writes:
 BTW I'm amazed that System Rescue doesn't seem to know re 'pppoe'.
 I hope to install Gentoo from the copied files w/o using the I/net.
 You can use any other boot CD, unless you use the automatic installer,
 but it seems people don't like it  prefer to do the install manually.
 Is there a good reason for not using ssh
 to transport any fs you want from one machine to the other?
 That's how I usually do it using tar and pipes (tarpipeuntar).

Well yes, if they're not part of a network (smile).

I've got my new box booting correctly
 am  c 30 %  thro' re-merging all the pkgs listed by 'emerge -ep system',
some of which were installed from Stage 3, but now have later versions.
I never fall for 'emerge world' or 'emerge system':
there are far too many tales of woe on this list due to such trust (smile).
I'm working from a printed list  adding each pkg to my master list
or more accurately my list of pkgs installed in my current machine.
The new one is lightning-fast, so it's not as painful as it might sound.

BTW there have been  3  glitches so far:
(1) it refused to compile 'sandbox' with some error;
(2) it can't find 'revdep-rebuild' despite saying I should run it !
(3) 'busybox' doesn't default to 'static' as on my current machine.
Any comments or advice welcome, but these haven't stopped the show.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new box

2007-10-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:30:58 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

 I've got my new box booting correctly
  am  c 30 %  thro' re-merging all the pkgs listed by 'emerge -ep
 system', some of which were installed from Stage 3, but now have later
 versions. I never fall for 'emerge world' or 'emerge system':

You don't trust emerge system, but you are 30% through emerge system?

 there are far too many tales of woe on this list due to such trust

Bad news travels, good news stays put. Think how noisy this list would gt
if everyone posted every time they had a successful emerge!

 BTW there have been  3  glitches so far:
 (1) it refused to compile 'sandbox' with some error;

this is often fixed by 'FEATURES=-sandbox emerge -1 sandbox', as
mentioned in the elog output.

 (2) it can't find 'revdep-rebuild' despite saying I should run it !

emerge gentoolkit, doesn't the message that tells you to run it tell you
how to get it?

 (3) 'busybox' doesn't default to 'static' as on my current machine.

Do you have busybox in /etc/portage/package.use on your current machine?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new box

2007-10-22 Thread Albert Hopkins

On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 00:50 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  I've got my new box booting correctly
   am  c 30 %  thro' re-merging all the pkgs listed by 'emerge -ep
  system', some of which were installed from Stage 3, but now have
 later
  versions. I never fall for 'emerge world' or 'emerge system':
 
 You don't trust emerge system, but you are 30% through emerge system?
 
  there are far too many tales of woe on this list due to such trust
 
 Bad news travels, good news stays put. Think how noisy this list would
 gt
 if everyone posted every time they had a successful emerge!

Success.  Actually on one of my boxes I have a cron job that runs once a
month that effectively does an 'emerge -e world'.  And usually I have 2
or 3 out of 700+ packages fail (usually because /usr/src/linux isn't
pointing to the current kernel or once in a while avidemux will fail
(it's hard masked anyway).

But as always YMMV.

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