Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntp-client slows down the boot process

2019-07-27 Thread YUE Daian
On 2019-07-27 09:20, Ian Zimmerman  wrote:
> On 2019-07-27 07:42, Aidan Harris wrote:
>
>> I run openrc with rc_parallel enabled and I end up booting so fast
>> that by the time ntp-client starts DNS resolution is not properly
>> available yet (I use a local DNS resolver so even though networking is
>> up my local resolver takes a while - a small while, but enough of a
>> while to be a problem - to be "ready") so the service fails to
>> start. To work around this I added a few lines of shell to the start
>> function:
>
> I take it that you stick with the default ntp configuration, with
> syncing from a pool.  I do not; I have found a few public stratum 1
> servers relatively close to me, and I use them in general, via their IP
> addresses and not via their DNS names.
>
> On my desktop and on my Pi, which do not need mobility, I don't even do
> that: I sync to my router.  It makes a fine stratum 2 NTP server :-)
>
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You inspired me.

Maybe I can build a NTP server on my Rasp Pi in the local network and
sync from it.

It should be a little bit faster and save me...well, 3 seconds ;-)



[gentoo-user] Re: ntp-client slows down the boot process

2019-07-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-27 07:42, Aidan Harris wrote:

> I run openrc with rc_parallel enabled and I end up booting so fast
> that by the time ntp-client starts DNS resolution is not properly
> available yet (I use a local DNS resolver so even though networking is
> up my local resolver takes a while - a small while, but enough of a
> while to be a problem - to be "ready") so the service fails to
> start. To work around this I added a few lines of shell to the start
> function:

I take it that you stick with the default ntp configuration, with
syncing from a pool.  I do not; I have found a few public stratum 1
servers relatively close to me, and I use them in general, via their IP
addresses and not via their DNS names.

On my desktop and on my Pi, which do not need mobility, I don't even do
that: I sync to my router.  It makes a fine stratum 2 NTP server :-)

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[gentoo-user] Re: ntp-client slows down the boot process

2019-07-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-07-27 01:27, Grant Edwards wrote:

> > By the way does "rc_parallel" really makes a difference?
> 
> 
> Yes.  It guarantees that when you do have boot problems, you'll never
> be able to figure out the real problem.
> 
> 
> Having more parallel boot operations used to be one of the
> "advantages" touted by some pro-systemd people.  I always thought it
> sounded like a horrible idea and an excellent reason to stick with
> openrc.

Well, to play the anti-$DEITY advocate, you may also say that
parallelizing helps you discover bugs in the dependencies that you
otherwise never would.

I have run fedora with systemd for a while, and I was able to make the
boot wicked fast.  But it wasn't automatic, not due to systemd itself
but due to packages like NetworkManager doing incredibly wasteful
things by default.

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[gentoo-user] Re: ntp-client slows down the boot process

2019-07-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2019-07-26, YUE Daian  wrote:

> By the way does "rc_parallel" really makes a difference?


Yes.  It guarantees that when you do have boot problems, you'll never
be able to figure out the real problem.


Having more parallel boot operations used to be one of the
"advantages" touted by some pro-systemd people.  I always thought it
sounded like a horrible idea and an excellent reason to stick with
openrc.

I have enough problems figuring out package build failures with -j2.  :/

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