Re: [gentoo-user] Some keyboard confusions

2010-09-19 Thread meino . cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [10-09-18 18:00]:
 On Saturday 18 September 2010 04:44:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  KEYMAP=qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys
 
 Try changing this to:
 
 KEYMAP=de-latin1-nodeadkeys
 -- 
 Regards,
 Mick

Unfortunately, this give me an QWERTY-keyboard layout (default).

Regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Some keyboard confusions

2010-09-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 September 2010 16:06:06 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [10-09-18 18:00]:
  On Saturday 18 September 2010 04:44:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
   KEYMAP=qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys
  
  Try changing this to:
  
  KEYMAP=de-latin1-nodeadkeys
 
 Unfortunately, this give me an QWERTY-keyboard layout (default).

Hmm ... odd!

There is no such keyboard file under ... /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty:

$ ls -la /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty | grep de-latin1-nodeadkeys
$

unlike the qwertz directory:

$ ls -la /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz | grep de-latin1-nodeadkeys
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  295 May 14 18:59 de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map.gz

Have you perhaps made a typo?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Some keyboard confusions

2010-09-19 Thread meino . cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [10-09-19 18:02]:
 On Sunday 19 September 2010 16:06:06 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [10-09-18 18:00]:
   On Saturday 18 September 2010 04:44:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
KEYMAP=qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys
   
   Try changing this to:
   
   KEYMAP=de-latin1-nodeadkeys
  
  Unfortunately, this give me an QWERTY-keyboard layout (default).
 
 Hmm ... odd!
 
 There is no such keyboard file under ... /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty:
 
 $ ls -la /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty | grep de-latin1-nodeadkeys
 $
 
 unlike the qwertz directory:
 
 $ ls -la /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz | grep de-latin1-nodeadkeys
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  295 May 14 18:59 de-latin1-nodeadkeys.map.gz
 
 Have you perhaps made a typo?
 -- 
 Regards,
 Mick

Hi Mick,

The problem is somehow different. Because de-latin1-nodeadkeys is
not found undr /usr/share/keymaps (it is under
/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwert), there is no key(re)mapping at all and
everything remains by default...and this is a qwerty keyboard.

Setting it to KEYMAP=qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys give /most/ (but
unfortunately not every) keymapping I want: No '@'for example but
nodeadkeys.

When doing a setxkbd de give me all keymappings -- but no nodeadkeys
(the dead keys are 'dead' and not 'nodead').

So, currently I can choose between two not completly good settings...

Best regards,
mcc




Re: [gentoo-user] Some keyboard confusions

2010-09-18 Thread Mick
On Saturday 18 September 2010 04:44:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 KEYMAP=qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys

Try changing this to:

KEYMAP=de-latin1-nodeadkeys
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Some keyboard confusions

2010-09-17 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

I am a little confused about the keyboard mapping, and what I made
wrong to screw it up...

What I want is a keyboard with german layout and no dead keys,
which was working under 32bit Linux.

What I did additionally under the 32bit Gentoo was to dump all
keysetting with xkeycaps into a ~/.xmodmap-file, remove the
entry for CAPS LOCK and reload it with ~/config/openbox/autostart.sh.
Works perfectly.

After setting up the 64bit system, something subtle changes.

With (as I  think...) identical setting I got a mainly working
keyboard layout with even the germen umlauts working BUT some
(but important) keys NOT working:
@ does not work
Alt Gr was mapped to Page up
.
.
and so on. Some very interesting variations

I tried to redump .xmodmap with xkeycaps but that did not
work.

Finally 

setxkbmap de

brings back @ to normal as ALt Gr.

But: No no dead keys ... all keyes were alive, so to say... ;)

I do not only want to fix this, I want to understand, whether I need
setxkbmap and whether/how it is possible to get back the former more
simpler (and working) way of a keyboard layout.

Ah! By the way: There were no changes to xorg.conf between the two
systems. /etc/conf.d/keymaps has the entry
KEYMAP=qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys as with the 32bit system.

How can I fix this ?

Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Best regard,
mcc