Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-02 Thread Bennet Gedan

2006/6/1, Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[...] LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc [...]


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[gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-01 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hi all,

Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
(eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.

If I type eix package and the package is unstable (or has unstable
versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
-for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
but this happens only if I have not marked the package with ~x86 in *my*
/etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with ~x86)
eix tells me :

* app-editors/emacs-cvs 
 Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
 Installed:   22.0.50-r2
 Homepage:http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
 Description: Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
 self-documenting real-time display editor.

and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).

Or is it intended?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-01 Thread Boris Fersing

2006/6/1, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi all,

Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
(eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.

If I type eix package and the package is unstable (or has unstable
versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
-for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
but this happens only if I have not marked the package with ~x86 in *my*
/etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with ~x86)
eix tells me :

* app-editors/emacs-cvs
 Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
 Installed:   22.0.50-r2
 Homepage:http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
 Description: Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
 self-documenting real-time display editor.

and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).

Or is it intended?


Hi,

add LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc and try again ! (it's not
a bug, it's a feature ! :D)

Regards,

Boris.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-01 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 6/1/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
(eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.

If I type eix package and the package is unstable (or has unstable
versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
-for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
but this happens only if I have not marked the package with ~x86 in *my*
/etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with ~x86)
eix tells me :

* app-editors/emacs-cvs
 Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
 Installed:   22.0.50-r2
 Homepage:http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
 Description: Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
 self-documenting real-time display editor.

and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).


Why is it a lie?! Have you not accepted that version explicity in your
own config file? So, isn't that version available? If you do an emerge
emacs-csv, wouldn't it pull out the keyworded package? Note that eix
uses the available word, not stable or anything like that. By
using available, it is dynamic and can give results accourding to
your personal config.

I guess its more a feature, it predicts exactly what portage will
do... I didn't even knew it was using my personal config files, that
is awesome!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-01 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 01 juin à 21:06:33 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| On 6/1/06, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Hi all,
| 
|  Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
|  (eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
|  gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.
| 
|  If I type eix package and the package is unstable (or has unstable
|  versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
|  -for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
|  but this happens only if I have not marked the package with ~x86 in *my*
|  /etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with ~x86)
|  eix tells me :
| 
|  * app-editors/emacs-cvs
|   Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
|   Installed:   22.0.50-r2
|   Homepage:http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
|   Description: Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
|   self-documenting real-time display editor.
| 
|  and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).

| Why is it a lie?! Have you not accepted that version explicity in your
| own config file? So, isn't that version available? If you do an emerge
| emacs-csv, wouldn't it pull out the keyworded package? Note that eix
| uses the available word, not stable or anything like that. By
| using available, it is dynamic and can give results accourding to
| your personal config.

Sure ; you understand my using lie was a joke; but anyway I was
interpreting the term masked as a property of the package common to all
gentoo users, and it sounded (still does) strange to me; the man page:
. 
OUTPUT If you used gentoo for more than a week you're probably going to
   immediately recognize the format of the
   versions-strings. Nevertheless, we are going to explain them here.

[...]

   *3.4.3-r2
  That version is masked by -* keyword.
   !3.3.3 This means the version is masked by missing keyword.
   -0.8.14
  Masked by -ARCH.
   ~3.3.5.20050130
  The version would be masked by ~keyword.

 
as I personally do not mask packages, I could assume they were masked by
the external world... I should have read the man more carefully 

| I guess its more a feature, it predicts exactly what portage will
| do... I didn't even knew it was using my personal config files, that
| is awesome!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-01 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 01 juin à 20:57:49 Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| 2006/6/1, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
|  Hi all,
| 
|  Using eix for some time (at least a year now), I discovered today
|  (eix-0.5.5) a very strange feature which and in less perfect world than
|  gentoo's might perhaps qualify as a bug.
| 
|  If I type eix package and the package is unstable (or has unstable
|  versions) and appears as such in the gentoo database, I expect to see it
|  -for the unstable versions- in eix's output: the man page says so anyway;
|  but this happens only if I have not marked the package with ~x86 in *my*
|  /etc/portage/package.keywords file. If I mark the package (with ~x86)
|  eix tells me :
| 
|  * app-editors/emacs-cvs
|   Available versions:  22.0.50-r1 22.0.50-r2 [M]23.0.0
|   Installed:   22.0.50-r2
|   Homepage:http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs
|   Description: Emacs is the extensible, customizable,
|   self-documenting real-time display editor.
| 
|  and this is a *big lie* (works with any package apparently).
| 
|  Or is it intended?

| Hi,

| add LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc and try again ! (it's not
| a bug, it's a feature ! :D)

Thanks Boris for the explanation, I hadn't noticed; not sure this should be the
default feature though...

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