[gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates. He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using Gentoo, by default. Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere? Thanks, Simon -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
Simon Maynard wrote: Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates. He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using Gentoo, by default. Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere? Thanks, Simon I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on), but i dont think its that. The only difference between these machines is that the one where it has better transparency has been updated while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space on the HD) . I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency works better). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is itself in alpha stage). For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it. But I noticed that the console transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop it. You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab. Just put a check in enable GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably. Simon Maynard wrote: It shouldn't be a hardware issue as my machine has a Geforce 4 running the nvidia-drivers. He has a Geforce 3 running the nvidia-drivers also. I am also running the latest stable versions of everything mixed with a few unstable packages. So it shouldn't be a problem regarding me running out of date software. Thanks Simon On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:46 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote: Simon Maynard wrote: Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates. He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using Gentoo, by default. Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere? Thanks, Simon I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on), but i dont think its that. The only difference between these machines is that the one where it has better transparency has been updated while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space on the HD) . I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency works better). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
Oppsie, I told you the wrong place for the alpha transperancy. It's in Desktop/Window Behavior/Translucency Simon Maynard wrote: It shouldn't be a hardware issue as my machine has a Geforce 4 running the nvidia-drivers. He has a Geforce 3 running the nvidia-drivers also. I am also running the latest stable versions of everything mixed with a few unstable packages. So it shouldn't be a problem regarding me running out of date software. Thanks Simon On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:46 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote: Simon Maynard wrote: Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates. He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using Gentoo, by default. Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere? Thanks, Simon I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on), but i dont think its that. The only difference between these machines is that the one where it has better transparency has been updated while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space on the HD) . I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency works better). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
He is running FVWM, same as me. He has also had this exact same kind of transparency for over a year now and also in two different distributions and with multiple types of terminal. Its really bugging me now :-) Thanks for your input, Simon On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:44 -0600, Ryan wrote: It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is itself in alpha stage). For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it. But I noticed that the console transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop it. You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab. Just put a check in enable GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
One other note, you will also need Load extmod in your X server config file for the alpha to work. Otherwise you wont notice true alpha being on. The easiest way to tell if you have true alpha on is to make the taskbar transperant and then move a window BEHIND it. If you can see the window, you have alpha on. If it is still showing the desktop background, then alpha is still not working for some reason. Ryan wrote: It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is itself in alpha stage). For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it. But I noticed that the console transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop it. You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab. Just put a check in enable GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably. Simon Maynard wrote: It shouldn't be a hardware issue as my machine has a Geforce 4 running the nvidia-drivers. He has a Geforce 3 running the nvidia-drivers also. I am also running the latest stable versions of everything mixed with a few unstable packages. So it shouldn't be a problem regarding me running out of date software. Thanks Simon On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 18:46 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote: Simon Maynard wrote: Using my friends Debian machine yesterday and his terminals had a better transparency than mine. Gnome-terminal, Eterm and Aterm all refreshed their transparency when moving the terminals around, whereas on my box I have to drop the terminal before the transparency updates. He also informed me that the terminals had the same behaviour when using Gentoo, by default. Am i missing a USE flag or some option somewhere? Thanks, Simon I have the same thing, but on two gentoo boxes. On one it will not refresh until you drop the terminal. The other will update as I drag it along. I can send you my use flags (for the box that it does work on), but i dont think its that. The only difference between these machines is that the one where it has better transparency has been updated while the older one hasnt been updated so much (due to a lack of space on the HD) . I dont know, maybe i inadvertantly set it up, because i dont recollect deliberatly enabling it (oh yeah, the 'working' laptop has DRI and other HW-accel enabled, come to think if it maybe thats why the transparency works better). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
Well, then I guess I wouldnt know. Thats the only way I've ever been able to get Konsole or Gnome Terminal to use real alpha transperency. I would check your Xorg config for that Extmod line I mentioned in the other post. Without it, you cant use real alpha transperency (well at least in my experiences anyways). Simon Maynard wrote: He is running FVWM, same as me. He has also had this exact same kind of transparency for over a year now and also in two different distributions and with multiple types of terminal. Its really bugging me now :-) Thanks for your input, Simon On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:44 -0600, Ryan wrote: It might be that he's running the new KDE alpha transparency (That is itself in alpha stage). For Gentoo it comes in 3.4, but it is REALLY REALLY slow for me, so I dont use it. But I noticed that the console transperancy changes as you move the window rather than when you drop it. You can find the alpha transparency switches in the KDE Control panel in the Apperance/Style/Effects tab. Just put a check in enable GUI effects and you will notice that Konsole now uses real alpha transperency, but it'll probably slow down the system considerably. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal Transparency
Simon Maynard wrote: He is running FVWM, same as me. He has also had this exact same kind of transparency for over a year now and also in two different distributions and with multiple types of terminal. Maybe I am wrong (I can't actually stand terminal transparency...sure it looks cool, but I need to get work done!), but I think this is what the COMPOSITE extension for X was supposed to do...allow high-performance alpha blending among other things. You might check out (via xdpyinfo) whether his X is built/configured for composite support or not..and compare to yours. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
