Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On 2023.09.21 13:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:35 PM Jack wrote: > On 9/21/23 12:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. >> > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. >> > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? >> >> emerge -cav ruby > > but that is the wrong way wrong. > Why do you think so? Trying to remove ruby will tell you why portage refuses to do so, and that reason is any installed packages that depend on it. This differs from using equery, which will tell you every package that depends on ruby, whether or not it is installed. Using -d instead of -a saves you from typing "N" just in case it IS willing to unmerge it. > Because I wanted to know, recursively, what packages depended on ruby, i.e. I have ruby (which I despise) so why? The answer is kdenlive which I can see in equery d, and cannot see in emerge -c What options did you give to equery? I had thought that "equery d" listed only direct dependencies, and that it listed packages whether installed or not. Actually reading the fine equery man page, under the section on "depends (d)" are the options -a, --all packages - Include dependencies that are not installed. This can take a while. -D, --indirect - Search for both direct and indirect dependencies so I was wrong on both counts. I can imagine using -D might give a large list, but probably not so bad, as long as you don;t us both -a and -D. Is this where you found kdenlive? This matters because emerge -avc only gives immediate dependencies, I wanted to see the full dep tree -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 11:21:34 -0400, Matt Connell wrote: > > emerge -cav ruby > > emerge --depclean --pretend ruby > > No need to ask when you don't actually mean to depclean it... nor could > you if something depended on it. Muscle memory added the --ask, but you do need verbose for this to give the information you need. emerge -cpv ruby -- Neil Bothwick A real programmer never documents his code. It was hard to make, it should be hard to read pgpbG5qkjbrtO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:35 PM Jack wrote: > On 9/21/23 12:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. >> > >> > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. >> > >> > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? >> >> emerge -cav ruby >> >> >> >> Thanks Neil, > > but that is the wrong way wrong. > > Why do you think so? Trying to remove ruby will tell you why portage > refuses to do so, and that reason is any installed packages that depend on > it. This differs from using equery, which will tell you every package that > depends on ruby, whether or not it is installed. Using -d instead of -a > saves you from typing "N" just in case it IS willing to unmerge it. > Because I wanted to know, recursively, what packages depended on ruby, i.e. I have ruby (which I despise) so why? The answer is kdenlive which I can see in equery d, and cannot see in emerge -c This matters because emerge -avc only gives immediate dependencies, I wanted to see the full dep tree -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On 9/21/23 12:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? emerge -cav ruby Thanks Neil, but that is the wrong way wrong. Why do you think so? Trying to remove ruby will tell you why portage refuses to do so, and that reason is any installed packages that depend on it. This differs from using equery, which will tell you every package that depends on ruby, whether or not it is installed. Using -d instead of -a saves you from typing "N" just in case it IS willing to unmerge it.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? > > emerge -cav ruby > > > > Thanks Neil, but that is the wrong way wrong. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, 2023-09-21 at 16:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? > > emerge -cav ruby emerge --depclean --pretend ruby No need to ask when you don't actually mean to depclean it... nor could you if something depended on it.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:34:20 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:01 PM Arve Barsnes wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 13:45, Alan McKinnon > > > > wrote: > > > Hey Gentooers, > > > > > > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > > > > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > > > > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? > > > > I tend to use > > # equery d dev-lang/ruby > > > > equery from app-portage/gentoolkit > > > > Regards, > > Arve > > Yes, that's the one! thanks! Let's not forget qdepends too: $ qdepends usage: qdepends [opts] : show dependency info options: -[drpbIQitUF:SRvqChV] -d, --depend * Show DEPEND info -r, --rdepend * Show RDEPEND infols: /usr/bin/qdepends -p, --pdepend * Show PDEPEND info -b, --bdepend * Show BDEPEND info -I, --idepend * Show IDEPEND info -Q, --query* Query reverse deps -i, --installed* Search installed packages using VDB -t, --tree * Search available ebuilds in the tree -U, --use * Apply profile USE-flags to conditional deps -F, --format * Print matched atom using given format string -S, --pretty * Pretty format specified depend strings -R, --resolve * Resolve found dependencies to package versions --root* Set the ROOT env var -v, --verbose * Report full package versions, emit more elaborate output -q, --quiet* Tighter output; suppress warnings -C, --nocolor * Don't output color --color* Force color in output -h, --help * Print this help and exit -V, --version * Print version and exit $ qfile /usr/bin/qdepends app-portage/portage-utils: /usr/bin/qdepends signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? emerge -cav ruby -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. pgp9mQbDdZpE3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:01 PM Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 13:45, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > > Hey Gentooers, > > > > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? > > I tend to use > # equery d dev-lang/ruby > > equery from app-portage/gentoolkit > > Regards, > Arve > > Yes, that's the one! thanks! -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 13:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Hey Gentooers, > > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? I tend to use # equery d dev-lang/ruby equery from app-portage/gentoolkit Regards, Arve
[gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby
Hey Gentooers, Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com