Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On Saturday, 4 February 2017 12:20:06 CET Stefano Crocco wrote: > On Thursday, 2 February 2017 09:28:05 CET Stefano Crocco wrote: > > Hello to everyone, > > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm > > thinking of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running > > Gentoo on it? If so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a > > page hinting it should work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > > Max RAM: 16 GB > > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > > Video OUT: HDMI > > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > > Card Reader: SD/MMC > > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Stefano > > Thanks to everyone who answered. I've ordered the laptop and it should > arrive next week. I'll let you know how it goes. > > Stefano All right. The laptop has arrived last Thursday (with memory expanded to 8GB) and, after a bit of work during the week-end I succeeded in installing a fully working ~amd64 Gentoo on it, with everything I need working perfectly (as far as I can tell). Unless some something unexpected come out in the future, I'm quite happy with this laptop. In case anybody is interested, here are some details on what works and what doesn't or I haven't tested. I'll also include a copy of my .config if someone finds it useful (it may contain unneeded stuff, but it works). What works: * video card: works flawlessly with Plasma 5 and the default effects enabled. I had some trouble in finding out which firmware and use flags enabled. In the end, I enabled the i965 and intel VIDEO_CARDS and everything seems to work (I didn't try anything graphics intensive, however) * wireless: this is the first wireless card which worked without problems from the installation medium: I created a wpa_supplicant.conf file with the network settings, run /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant restart and the connection was there. After that, I only needed to find out the correct driver and firmware and insert them in the kernel * touchpad: this gave me some problems because I couldn't find out the correct options to insert in the kernel. However, after a lot of attempts, checking everything related to 12C which seemed even remotely connected with a touchpad, it started working. Most likely, currently my kernel contains some unneeded options, but I don't have the time to find out which they are * sound card: this too required a bit of work because I didn't know which codec I should use. At last, trying everyone, I found out the correct one was SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI * suspend and hibernate: both work correctly (regarding hibernate, I have set up a swap partition of 16GB: I don't know whether it's too much, but as I have space to spare, I don't care) What doesn't work so well: * bluetooth: the adapter is recognized. However, following the instructions in the Gentoo wiki [1] I couldn't connect with my smartphone: everything went well up to the "connect" command, then I got a "can't connect" error. I tried doing the same from Bluedevil (the KDE bluetooth manager), with the same result: however, I could send files between laptop and smartphone. I don't know whether this behavior is expected with such a device, since I almost never use bluetooth. What I haven't tested: * card reader * wireless display. One of the issues which worried me more was setting up correctly an UEFI system. I don't have much experience with such systems so, among the various options I found online, I chose Refind as it seemed the easiest one. I proceeded this way: * from the UEFI screen, I disabled Secure Boot and UEFI boot (I wasn't sure the Gentoo installation stick would boot from UEFI) * I booted from the Gentoo installation stick and setup everything according to the installation handbook, except for the Grub2 part. According to the Refind instructions [2], I enabled the EFI stub in the kernel * I copied the kernel to the usual /boot partition (with ext2 filesystem; ext3, ext4 or other filesystems supported by Refind would have worked as well) * from Windows, I installed Refind [3], following to the letter the instructions given in [4]. Here, the author warns about issues with Windows 10, but, luckily, I didn't have any * I installed the kernel in the boot partition as usual * I created a custom stanza in refind.conf, as described in [5] (I could have done without it if I had given the kernel a standard name, instead of linux-4.9.9). The custom stanza is simply: menuentry
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On Saturday, 4 February 2017 09:10:22 CET Daniel Frey wrote: > On 02/02/2017 12:28 AM, Stefano Crocco wrote: > > Hello to everyone, > > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm > > thinking of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running > > Gentoo on it? If so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a > > page hinting it should work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > > Max RAM: 16 GB > > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > > Video OUT: HDMI > > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > > Card Reader: SD/MMC > > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Stefano > > If they have it in store you can ask if you can boot linux on a USB-key. > I asked my local store and they let me try it on the display model. Your > mileage may vary though. > > Dan A good suggestion which didn't occur to me. Unfortunately, they didn't have any in store so I couldn't have asked them in any case. Stefano
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On 02/02/2017 12:28 AM, Stefano Crocco wrote: > Hello to everyone, > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm thinking > of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running Gentoo on it? If > so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a page hinting it should > work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > Max RAM: 16 GB > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > Video OUT: HDMI > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > Card Reader: SD/MMC > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > Thanks in advance > > Stefano > > If they have it in store you can ask if you can boot linux on a USB-key. I asked my local store and they let me try it on the display model. Your mileage may vary though. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On 02/04/2017 06:20 AM, Stefano Crocco wrote: On Thursday, 2 February 2017 09:28:05 CET Stefano Crocco wrote: Hello to everyone, I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm thinking of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running Gentoo on it? If so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a page hinting it should work with linux, but didn't give any detail. Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) RAM: 4 GB DDR4 Max RAM: 16 GB Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 Video OUT: HDMI Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 Card Reader: SD/MMC Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg The price should be less than 800€/$. Thanks in advance Stefano Thanks to everyone who answered. I've ordered the laptop and it should arrive next week. I'll let you know how it goes. Stefano I am a little bit late but for future reference there are no wireless ac devices that have libre firmware, they all require blobs so do the USB 3 ports on that laptop. The intel wi-fi chips will never be freed either. 4GB RAM and a crappy 5.4K 500gb drive was pathetic - in 2010. The best laptop choice is the lenovo G505S, which supports (real) coreboot, 16gb ram and is pre-AMD PSP (amds version of ME).
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On Thursday, 2 February 2017 09:28:05 CET Stefano Crocco wrote: > Hello to everyone, > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm thinking > of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running Gentoo on it? If > so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a page hinting it should > work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > Max RAM: 16 GB > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > Video OUT: HDMI > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > Card Reader: SD/MMC > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > Thanks in advance > > Stefano Thanks to everyone who answered. I've ordered the laptop and it should arrive next week. I'll let you know how it goes. Stefano
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
Hello, I got the Asus UX310UA-FC089T with an i7-6500U wich seems to be almost the same (given your specs, at least IO-seems the same), except the cpu (mine is the previous generation). I have Gentoo running on it and would say it is mostly functional. I can boot with efi-manager/UEFI as bootloader and have no problems using it as my daily driver. BUT I don't have configured any acpi-events like brightness up/down or lid closed (mostly because I don't need them that much and I had other stuff to do). For some of them I know they can work, since I ran a Fedora 24 live-CD and at least brightness and keyboard-backlighting worked, as well as the sound keys (tried Fedora 25 for like 10 minutes and they didn't seem to work there, might be wrong on that). I remember having trouble installing Gentoo on it, especially with the trackpad, but I somehow got it working (as mentioned before Fedora 24 worked like a charm). Sometimes the trackpad doesn't get recognised after boot, but it is very rare and I usually don't notice, since most work is done in the terminal. The Trackpad is if I remeber correctly connected via i2c. Even if not everything works perfect out of the box, I think all problems are solvable, the brightness and keyboard-lighting are both adjustable with a script. If you need help with anything, or want some more information on my laptop (to find differences or hints on stuff you might not find) feel free to ask me. I'd like to help ;] Regards, Holger Wünsche On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:28:05AM +0100, Stefano Crocco wrote: > Hello to everyone, > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm thinking > of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running Gentoo on it? If > so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a page hinting it should > work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > Max RAM: 16 GB > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > Video OUT: HDMI > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > Card Reader: SD/MMC > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > Thanks in advance > > Stefano > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On Friday 03 Feb 2017 17:01:04 Stanislav Ch. Nikolov wrote: > On 02/02/2017 10:28 AM, Stefano Crocco wrote: > > Hello to everyone, > > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm > > thinking of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running > > Gentoo on it? If so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a > > page hinting it should work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > > Max RAM: 16 GB > > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > > Video OUT: HDMI > > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > > Card Reader: SD/MMC > > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Stefano > > bump I don't have experience of this particular hardware, but the CPU and video card should work fine with Gentoo. The WiFi card and audio are also likely to work, although you may need to fish around for the right drivers (lspci and lshw outputs should help your research). WiDi (like Miracast) may or may not be able to work yet, although there are a couple of software projects looking into it: https://01.org/wds https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast HTH -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
On 02/02/2017 10:28 AM, Stefano Crocco wrote: > Hello to everyone, > I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm thinking > of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running Gentoo on it? If > so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a page hinting it should > work with linux, but didn't give any detail. > > Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar > specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: > > Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare > CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) > RAM: 4 GB DDR4 > Max RAM: 16 GB > Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 > Video OUT: HDMI > Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm > Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) > Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) > Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 > USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 > Card Reader: SD/MMC > Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg > > The price should be less than 800€/$. > > Thanks in advance > > Stefano > bump signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] advice on a new laptop
Hello to everyone, I need to buy a new laptop and I'd like some advice. Currently, I'm thinking of buying an ASUS UX310UA-GL547T. Has anyone tried running Gentoo on it? If so, how did it go? A Google search only lead me to a page hinting it should work with linux, but didn't give any detail. Alternatively, which other model would you suggest with similar specifications? The ASUS UX310UA-GL547T has the following characteristics: Screen: 13.3" - 1920x1080 Pixel - Full HD, LED, No Glare CPU: Intel® CoreTM i3-7100U (2.4 GHZ) RAM: 4 GB DDR4 Max RAM: 16 GB Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 620 Video OUT: HDMI Hard Disk: 500 GB SATA 5400 rpm Wireless: WiFi 802.11n (a/c) Intel® Wireless Display (WiDi) Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.1 USB slots: 2x USB 2.0 - 1x USB 3.0 - 1x USB 3.1 Card Reader: SD/MMC Size and weight: 32.3x22.3x1.84~1.90 cm / 1.45 Kg The price should be less than 800€/$. Thanks in advance Stefano
