Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Have a look at this benchmark http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html and the interview article http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=69 Someone mentioned that reiserfs slows down after a while because of fragmentation, to be honest I've been running a quite busy web/file storage server using reiserfs for more than 1,5 years without any noticeable slowing down.On 27/11/05, Colin Copley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List,Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo runningawebserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard?--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Colin Copley schrieb: Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo None. running a webserver, Ah, that's something, that can be answered :) I prefer more speed and less journaling, Those are no contrasts. is there a standard? No. I'd suggest, that you do the tests yourself. This will give you the most reliable data. To do so, I'd create filesystems containing the data and use the apache benchmark tool ab. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Thomas Harold schrieb: Colin Copley wrote: Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo running a webserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard? Probably can't go wrong with ext2 (personally, I'd still go with ext3 because you get faster fscks during bootup, right?). Ext2/ext3 have been around for a long time, there are lots of tools written to work with them, supported in most (all?) linux distros. Well, who cares about other distibutions? This is a Gentoo list. OP asks about Gentoo. Anyway. It'll be hard to find a recent distribution, which does NOT support all of the available standard filesystems (Reiser 3, XFS, ext2, ext3, JFS and maybe even Reiser 4). As far as age is concerned: What's older? XFS or ext2? I'm sure there are good arguments for using Reiser, XFS, JFS, etc, but I haven't gotten comfortable enough about them to make the switch away from ext2/ext3. Why not? Are there any facts, that makes you think so? -- Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Robert Crawford wrote: For a server, I'd stay away from reiserfs, as it does appear to have serious fragmentation over time- this is becoming more and more apparent. Check this thread out on Gentoo forums- I posted links to a lot of good info. If you serve only static content, you can put your document root to a separate partition and as such avoid fragmentation because there aren't any writes happening. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Colin Copley wrote: Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo running a webserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard? Webserving is a general enough case where there aren't going to be huge advantages between filesystems. I'd go with ext3, maybe look at some of the tuning parameters, and not spend too much time on it. If you find yourself running into I/O issues moving your content to a second drive or adding more RAM to increase the system cache is simpler and will likely offer an order of magnitude more performance than any wacky filesystem hack. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo running a webserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Colin Copley wrote: Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo running a webserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard? I don't run a webserver or anything but if you don't want journaling, ext2 may be good. I don't think it has any journaling at all. Of course, there are a lot of file systems out there to pick from. I use reiserfs on all mine and it works well, even when the power fails. It also does fine on a Compaq Proliant 6000 server with quad 200MHz CPUs. It is a slow rig but I don't think the journaling takes up that much CPU time. It always shows 0%. It's a thought, until a serious guru comes along. ^_^ Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
Colin Copley wrote: Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo running a webserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard? Probably can't go wrong with ext2 (personally, I'd still go with ext3 because you get faster fscks during bootup, right?). Ext2/ext3 have been around for a long time, there are lots of tools written to work with them, supported in most (all?) linux distros. I'm sure there are good arguments for using Reiser, XFS, JFS, etc, but I haven't gotten comfortable enough about them to make the switch away from ext2/ext3. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best filesystem for Gentoo
On Sat November 26 2005 11:48 pm, Thomas Harold wrote: Colin Copley wrote: Hi List, Any comment on the best filesystem to use for Gentoo running a webserver, I prefer more speed and less journaling, is there a standard? Probably can't go wrong with ext2 (personally, I'd still go with ext3 because you get faster fscks during bootup, right?). Ext2/ext3 have been around for a long time, there are lots of tools written to work with them, supported in most (all?) linux distros. I'm sure there are good arguments for using Reiser, XFS, JFS, etc, but I haven't gotten comfortable enough about them to make the switch away from ext2/ext3. For a server, I'd stay away from reiserfs, as it does appear to have serious fragmentation over time- this is becoming more and more apparent. Check this thread out on Gentoo forums- I posted links to a lot of good info. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-401591-start-0.html With ext3, you might want to set the dir_index feature when you format, as this allows diretory B=Trees to be used, and really helps with the big performance drawback this FS has. This might be your best bet for a webserver- rock solid, really good speed (with the dir_index option), and virtually no fragmentation over time. If you deal with lots of really large files, xfs might serve your circumstance better, as it performs much better. It really depends on what you are using your system for, and what types of files/directories reside on each partition. For example, reiserfs (and R4) do much better than the others with lots of really small files. But as stated, plan on doing periodic tarball partition and save on another media/reformat partition/copy back all data procedures to defrag the reiserfs partition to maintain top performance. There is as yet no decent repacker for reiserfs that I know of. This is contrary to what most people believe about all Linux file systems, but for reiserfs, this is becoming an accepted fact. It does get seriously fragmented over time, though probably not as quickly as a FAT or NTFS windows partition. Robert Crawford (wrc1944- on the forum) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
