Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-15 Thread Gabriel Rossetti



Benno Schulenberg wrote:

Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
  

have the same problem
as with Gnome, still can[not] switch to a VT...

If I open a term and try the usual Ctrl + Alt + F1 to F7 key
combination I get :

PQRS;7~;7~;7~



First: stop top-posting.

  A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
  Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?

Second: re-emerge xf86-input-keyboard, xkeyboard-config, and 
xkbcomp.  Then restart X.


If then it still doesn't work, show the output of 
'setxkbmap -print' and 'emerge --info'.


Benno
  


Ok, it worked great! Thanks Benno and all the rest for your 
help/suggestions!


Gabriel
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Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-15 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:42:32 +0100 Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you for your replay Benno, I was not aware that Top-posting
 was a bad thing, since you can read the last msg first, which is to me
 better since I don't want to have to re-read/skip the whole history to read
 the last post.

This point has merit when it is a personal conversation between two
people.  Although I still bottom reply in those cases (or inline reply
as you would say), I can see why top replying is not so bad.
However, for mailing lists where there are many readers, a
number of whom have not been actively following the thread, bottom
posting is annoying.

Also I save some message from this group as reference to be read much
later if I encounter a similar problem.  Then bottom-posting is
considerably better.

thanks,
allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-15 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
 Benno Schulenberg wrote:
  First: stop top-posting.

 I was not aware that
 Top-posting was a bad thing, since you can read the last msg
 first,

Sure, but then you have to spaghetti first down, then up, then maybe 
down again to read closer, up again...  Do you want to make people 
crazy?  :)

 which is to me better since I don't want to have to 
 re-read/skip the whole history to read the last post.

There's no need to skip the whole history when the person whose post 
you're reading has snipped well: only the relevant stuff is there.

 I do assume that you prefer Bottom-Posting,  from your reply's
 position. Is Inline-posting acceptable too?

Inline-posting is what's needed.  Just quoting the whole previous 
post and then adding your answer at the bottom is no good either: 
first snip everything that you're not reacting to.

Glad that the re-emerging worked, though.

Benno

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Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-09 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
 have the same problem
 as with Gnome, still can[not] switch to a VT...

 If I open a term and try the usual Ctrl + Alt + F1 to F7 key
 combination I get :

 PQRS;7~;7~;7~

First: stop top-posting.

  A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
  Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
  A: Top-posting.
  Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?

Second: re-emerge xf86-input-keyboard, xkeyboard-config, and 
xkbcomp.  Then restart X.

If then it still doesn't work, show the output of 
'setxkbmap -print' and 'emerge --info'.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-08 Thread Gabriel Rossetti
Hello, sorry for the long wait to reply, I switched to E17 and I have 
the same problem

as with Gnome, still can switch to a VT...

Ifr I open a term and try the usual Ctrl + Alt + F1 to F7 key combination
I get :

PQRS;7~;7~;7~

Which I don't ever remember getting in the past. I tried killing
gnome-settings-manager but that doesn't change anything either.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Gabriel

Benno Schulenberg wrote:

Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
  

I recently switched to ~x86 and with it to xorg 7.x.



Are you sure it's due to upgrading Xorg and not Gnome?
See  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175870

  
I saw that 
the xkb syntax changed, so I updated it accordingly,

but now I can't switch to VT's anymore.



When using almost exactly your arrangement it works fine here.

$ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes  { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty)   };
xkb_types { include complete  };
xkb_compat{ include complete+lednum(group_lock)   };
xkb_symbols   { include 
pc(pc104)+us(basic)+us(intl):2+ch(fr):3+group(ctrls_toggle)+level3

(win_switch)+ctrl(nocaps)+compose(menu)+eurosign(e)  };
xkb_geometry  { include pc(pc104) };
};

If it's not the failing Gnome daemon, maybe it is Gnome interfering 
in some other way with the keyboard?  Here I had to switch off all 
things in KDE's Control Center  Regional  Keyboard Layout to make 
the settings in xorg.conf work.


Benno
  


Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2007-01-08 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 09:01 +0100, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
 Hello, sorry for the long wait to reply, I switched to E17 and I have
 the same problem
 as with Gnome, still can switch to a VT...
 
 Ifr I open a term and try the usual Ctrl + Alt + F1 to F7 key
 combination
 I get : 
 
 PQRS;7~;7~;7~
 
 Which I don't ever remember getting in the past. I tried killing 
 gnome-settings-manager but that doesn't change anything either.
 
 Any ideas?


are you using a keyboard where the Fx keys double up?  Look for an Flock
key somewhere, and see if that helps...

just a wild idea...
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[gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2006-12-20 Thread Gabriel Rossetti

Hello,

I recently switched to ~x86 and with it to xorg 7.x. I saw that the xkb 
syntax changed, so I updated it accordingly,
but now I can't switch to VT's anymore. I searched google but all the 
solutions didn't apply to me, since they hadn't
updated their xorg.conf. I use diff. keyboard mappings, us-basic, 
us-international and swiss-french. I checked the

xorg logs and it has no xkb problems. Here are my xorg keyboard settings :

Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
   Option  AutoRepeat500 30
   Option  XkbLayout us,us,ch
   Option  XkbVariantbasic,intl,fr
   Option  XkbModel  pc105
   Option  XkbOptions
grp:lwin_toggle,grp_led:num,eurosign:e

EndSection

does anyone have an idea as of why this is happening? If use only 
us-basic it
works fine (I haven't tried only swiss-french, but a colleague uses it 
and has no problems).


Thank you,
Gabriel Rossetti

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Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2006-12-20 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
 I recently switched to ~x86 and with it to xorg 7.x.

Are you sure it's due to upgrading Xorg and not Gnome?
See  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175870

 I saw that 
 the xkb syntax changed, so I updated it accordingly,
 but now I can't switch to VT's anymore.

When using almost exactly your arrangement it works fine here.

$ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes  { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty)   };
xkb_types { include complete  };
xkb_compat{ include complete+lednum(group_lock)   };
xkb_symbols   { include 
pc(pc104)+us(basic)+us(intl):2+ch(fr):3+group(ctrls_toggle)+level3
(win_switch)+ctrl(nocaps)+compose(menu)+eurosign(e)  };
xkb_geometry  { include pc(pc104) };
};

If it's not the failing Gnome daemon, maybe it is Gnome interfering 
in some other way with the keyboard?  Here I had to switch off all 
things in KDE's Control Center  Regional  Keyboard Layout to make 
the settings in xorg.conf work.

Benno
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