Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
Iain Buchanan wrote: snip This doesn't seem to be the right way to go, as I can mount the drive _without_ nls_utf8, but gnome-volume-manager can't... thanks for any comments! So GVM is trying to force it to utf8. I would try two things: 1) I'm not familiar with GVM at all, but see if there's an option somewhere to make it *not* mount vfat partitions as Unicode. 2) Failing that, make gvm USE -unicode -utf8. HTH. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:55 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 15:08 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: OK, I finally got some more time to spend on this, and I'll give all info again, just in case anyone can help. gnome-volume-manager kind-of works! When I insert a usb storage drive, I get this message in /var/log/messages: [Attached scsi disk blah...] Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus Unable to load NLS charset utf8 Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: IO charset utf8 not found Not sure.. is UTF8 compiled in? I don't get this warning at all. $grep -i utf /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT=utf8 CONFIG_NLS_UTF8=y hey, can you tail /var/log/messages for me when you plug in a drive, and tell me if you see: Feb 10 14:26:38 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! I just recompiled my kernel like yours, above, and I still get this message (but at least g-v-m auto mounts the drive :) thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au A little suffering is good for the soul. -- Kirk, The Corbomite Maneuver, stardate 1514.0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
OK, I finally got some more time to spend on this, and I'll give all info again, just in case anyone can help. gnome-volume-manager kind-of works! When I insert a usb storage drive, I get this message in /var/log/messages: [Attached scsi disk blah...] Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus Unable to load NLS charset utf8 Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: IO charset utf8 not found But when I mount the drive manually: sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/tmp or sudo mount -o codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1 /dev/sdd1 /mnt/tmp/ it mounts fine, gnome-volume-manager detects that I've mounted it and opens a window in the root folder of the drive (/mnt/tmp). So why doesn't it do it automatically? I tried building the module nls_utf8. When I load the module and plug in the drive, /var/log/messages now shows: Feb 7 22:07:18 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! but the drive still mounts... This doesn't seem to be the right way to go, as I can mount the drive _without_ nls_utf8, but gnome-volume-manager can't... thanks for any comments! -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au I gained nothing at all from Supreme Enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment. -- Gotama Buddha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 15:08 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: OK, I finally got some more time to spend on this, and I'll give all info again, just in case anyone can help. gnome-volume-manager kind-of works! When I insert a usb storage drive, I get this message in /var/log/messages: [Attached scsi disk blah...] Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus Unable to load NLS charset utf8 Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: IO charset utf8 not found Not sure.. is UTF8 compiled in? I don't get this warning at all. $grep -i utf /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT=utf8 CONFIG_NLS_UTF8=y $egrep -i '(437|8859)' /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET=iso8859-1 CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:55:11 up 3 days, 4:55, 6 users, load average: 1.61, 1.07, 0.89 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 13:55 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 15:08 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: OK, I finally got some more time to spend on this, and I'll give all info again, just in case anyone can help. gnome-volume-manager kind-of works! When I insert a usb storage drive, I get this message in /var/log/messages: [Attached scsi disk blah...] Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus Unable to load NLS charset utf8 Feb 9 14:48:31 orpheus FAT: IO charset utf8 not found Not sure.. is UTF8 compiled in? I don't get this warning at all. hmmm, my options are different slightly: CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT=utf8 CONFIG_NLS_UTF8=y CONFIG_NLS_DEFAULT=iso8859-1 # CONFIG_NLS_UTF8 is not set CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET=iso8859-1 CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=y CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=y same as mine. let me try that and see... -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Three o'clock in the afternoon is always just a little too late or a little too early for anything you want to do. -- Jean-Paul Sartre -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 17:26 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: Also under File Systems, you can change the default code page and IO charset for vfat filesystems, which should remove the warning. any suggestions for these last two? I don't really have much of an idea... thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Every country has the government it deserves. -- Joseph De Maistre -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:59 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 17:26 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: Also under File Systems, you can change the default code page and IO charset for vfat filesystems, which should remove the warning. any suggestions for these last two? I don't really have much of an idea... I left them as is, and compiled nsl_utf8 as a module (so I don't have to restart). When I load the module and plug in the drive, /var/log/messages now shows: Feb 7 22:07:18 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! but the drive still mounts... -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Besides, I think [Slackware] sounds better than 'Microsoft,' don't you? (By Patrick Volkerding) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:59 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 17:26 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: Also under File Systems, you can change the default code page and IO charset for vfat filesystems, which should remove the warning. any suggestions for these last two? I don't really have much of an idea... Depends on your location and what NLS you normally use. I'm in North America, so I use the ISO 8859-1 charset and code page 437, both for Western European language support. If you don't intend to use your computer in any language other than English, those are probably fine. I left them as is, and compiled nsl_utf8 as a module (so I don't have to restart). When I load the module and plug in the drive, /var/log/messages now shows: Feb 7 22:07:18 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! but the drive still mounts... This is a warning, not an error. You can use Unicode on vfat filesystems, but it's not recommended as vfat is not usually used in a case sensitive context. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:33 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: [snip] I left them as is, and compiled nsl_utf8 as a module (so I don't have to restart). When I load the module and plug in the drive, /var/log/messages now shows: Feb 7 22:07:18 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! but the drive still mounts... This is a warning, not an error. You can use Unicode on vfat filesystems, but it's not recommended as vfat is not usually used in a case sensitive context. So what do I do if I don't want it to be case sensitive? If I don't load nls_utf8, then I can't access the drive... But to access the drive I need nls_utf8... hmmm -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Never ask two questions in a business letter. The reply will discuss the one you are least interested, and say nothing about the other. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:33 -0800, Ryan Tandy wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: [snip] I left them as is, and compiled nsl_utf8 as a module (so I don't have to restart). When I load the module and plug in the drive, /var/log/messages now shows: Feb 7 22:07:18 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! but the drive still mounts... This is a warning, not an error. You can use Unicode on vfat filesystems, but it's not recommended as vfat is not usually used in a case sensitive context. So what do I do if I don't want it to be case sensitive? If I don't load nls_utf8, then I can't access the drive... But to access the drive I need nls_utf8... hmmm From man mount: Mount options for fat (Note: fat is not a separate filesystem, but a common part of the msdos, umsdos and vfat filesystems.) snip codepage=value Sets the codepage for converting to shortname characters on FAT and VFAT filesystems. By default, codepage 437 is used. snip iocharset=value Character set to use for converting between 8 bit characters and 16 bit Unicode characters. The default is iso8859-1. Long filenames are stored on disk in Unicode format. Try compiling the nls_iso8859-1 module, and mount the drive using that iocharset. The man page notwithstanding, the default CP and iocharset can both be changed in the kernel config. If that doesn't work, then I've misunderstood the error/warning, and you need to look at the 'utf8' option for vfat in man mount. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
Hi, due to the recent discussions about automounting usb drives, I thought I'd try gnome-volume-manager again. I compiled it, started dbus and hald, started gnome-volume-manager, restarted gnome (just in case), but when I plug in a drive I get (in /var/log/messages): Feb 7 10:31:08 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! Feb 7 10:31:08 orpheus Unable to load NLS charset utf8 Feb 7 10:31:08 orpheus FAT: IO charset utf8 not found hmmm, why can't it find utf8? thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Parting is such sweet sorrow. -William Shakespeare -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-volume-manager
Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, due to the recent discussions about automounting usb drives, I thought I'd try gnome-volume-manager again. I compiled it, started dbus and hald, started gnome-volume-manager, restarted gnome (just in case), but when I plug in a drive I get (in /var/log/messages): Feb 7 10:31:08 orpheus FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! Feb 7 10:31:08 orpheus Unable to load NLS charset utf8 Feb 7 10:31:08 orpheus FAT: IO charset utf8 not found hmmm, why can't it find utf8? thanks, Make sure you have the utf8 charset compiled into your kernel - in my menuconfig it's File Systems - Native Language Support - NLS UTF8 (the bottommost option). Also under File Systems, you can change the default code page and IO charset for vfat filesystems, which should remove the warning. HTH. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
