Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-09-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Keith Dart schrieb:

 Just FYI, I always run unstable (now ~amd64), and rarely have problems,
 and those are mostly compile problems related to my particular mix of
 USE flags. Those are quickly fixed. Once running, everything has been
 stable for me.  I guess that since unstable is so stable that no one
 is inclined to unmask it for stable mask. ;-)
 
 So go for it...
 
 By far the biggest headaches have been all the changes happening in the
 Xorg world, but that seems to have stabilized now also. 
 
 But always keep in mind that as a Gentoo user you are your own system's
 integrator...

oh yes ...

Keith, Albert, James, thanks for your replies ...

I will consider trying this although I would prefer not to go completely
~amd64 ... as I am very happy with the overall state of my system ...
you know, the old dilemma :-)

I will look into getting 2.26 soon, thanks.

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-09-30 Thread Justin
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb:
 Without any ranting ... I feel kind of stupid waiting for GNOME 2.26
 going stable within the gentoo-tree while GNOME 2.28 is out now at
 gnome.org.
 
 Maybe I am too conservative here and could already use 2.26 for a while
 by unmasking lots of packages or doing *something* ...
 
 Not that I really miss something, it's just that I wonder ... and I
 would like to explore any new features etc ...
 
 The question:
 
 Should I wait for bug 263083 to be done?
 
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263083
 
 Or is there a safe enough, stable enough way to get gnome-2.26 onto my
 amd64-desktop without crashing my main workstation every few days?
 
 Again: I appreciate the work of all the gentoo-devs, I am far from being
 able to judge their work. I just ask as I assume that I am missing
 something maybe ...
 
 Thanks, Stefan.
 
 
Gnome herd is hardly working on stabilization. There are some hard
things to solve but they want to get it stable ASAP.


Btw, I am always running a ~gnome and I rarely had problems. They are
really doing a good job.



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[gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-09-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Without any ranting ... I feel kind of stupid waiting for GNOME 2.26
going stable within the gentoo-tree while GNOME 2.28 is out now at
gnome.org.

Maybe I am too conservative here and could already use 2.26 for a while
by unmasking lots of packages or doing *something* ...

Not that I really miss something, it's just that I wonder ... and I
would like to explore any new features etc ...

The question:

Should I wait for bug 263083 to be done?

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263083

Or is there a safe enough, stable enough way to get gnome-2.26 onto my
amd64-desktop without crashing my main workstation every few days?

Again: I appreciate the work of all the gentoo-devs, I am far from being
able to judge their work. I just ask as I assume that I am missing
something maybe ...

Thanks, Stefan.




Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-09-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 00:01 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: 
 Without any ranting ... I feel kind of stupid waiting for GNOME 2.26
 going stable within the gentoo-tree while GNOME 2.28 is out now at
 gnome.org.
 
 Maybe I am too conservative here and could already use 2.26 for a while
 by unmasking lots of packages or doing *something* ...
 
 Not that I really miss something, it's just that I wonder ... and I
 would like to explore any new features etc ...
 
 The question:
 
 Should I wait for bug 263083 to be done?
 
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263083
 
 Or is there a safe enough, stable enough way to get gnome-2.26 onto my
 amd64-desktop without crashing my main workstation every few days?

I haven't found any problems with and I've been running it since it's
been in the tree.  I think most of the problems are banged out when it's
in the overlay so by the time the packages make it to the tree they've
already been tested somewhat.

I've found the easiest way to run a suite of packages marked testing is
to go ahead and put yourself in the testing tree.  It's easier to mask
packages than to unmask testing ones (even though there are tools now
that supposedly help with that) and testing really isn't that unstable.
If/when there are problems (e.g. cups 1.4.1) the workaround is easy:
report a bug if applicable, mask the offending package and downgrade to
the last version that worked.  So come on in. The water's warm :)

-a





Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-09-29 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Wed, 09/30, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: ===
 Without any ranting ... I feel kind of stupid waiting for GNOME 2.26
 going stable within the gentoo-tree while GNOME 2.28 is out now at
 gnome.org.

===

Just FYI, I always run unstable (now ~amd64), and rarely have problems,
and those are mostly compile problems related to my particular mix of
USE flags. Those are quickly fixed. Once running, everything has been
stable for me.  I guess that since unstable is so stable that no one
is inclined to unmask it for stable mask. ;-)

So go for it...

By far the biggest headaches have been all the changes happening in the
Xorg world, but that seems to have stabilized now also. 

But always keep in mind that as a Gentoo user you are your own system's
integrator...



-- Keith Dart

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Keith Dart
ke...@dartworks.biz
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