Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 15 June 2009 03:32:57 Francisco Ares wrote:
 I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
 pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

 One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

Amarok-1.4 will pull in kdelibs-3.5.10
Amarok-2.1 will pull in kdelibe-4

ktorrent also has a 3.5 and a 4 port.

k3b is still kde-3 only

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-15 Thread Francisco Ares
Thanks again - going into kde-meta, it seems that everything will be ok

Francisco

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday 15 June 2009 03:32:57 Francisco Ares wrote:
 I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
 pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

 One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

 Amarok-1.4 will pull in kdelibs-3.5.10
 Amarok-2.1 will pull in kdelibe-4

 ktorrent also has a 3.5 and a 4 port.

 k3b is still kde-3 only

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





-- 
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then
you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and
I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have
two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw



Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-14 Thread Francisco Ares
I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

Anyone has seen it or am I the only one not using KDE 4 ;-)  ?

Best regards to all
Francisco

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:
  Thanks a lot!

 It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely
 accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev
 decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -

 Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages
 Rememerge the new kde split packages

 There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called Migrating to KDE
 split
 ebuilds or some such. A quick search will find it for you.




 
  Francisco
 
  On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs
 dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:
   Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:
And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?
  
   The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the
   same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.
  
   The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
   applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
   kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta
   ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta
   appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications
 than
   monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.
  
   So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic
 ebuilds
   and
   when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.
  
   That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
   installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from
 the
   split ebuild again.
  
   HTH...
  
  Dirk

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




-- 
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -
George Bernard Shaw


Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:
 Thanks a lot!

It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely 
accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev 
decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -

Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages
Rememerge the new kde split packages

There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called Migrating to KDE split 
ebuilds or some such. A quick search will find it for you.



 

 Francisco

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs 
dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:
  Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:
   And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?
 
  The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the
  same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.
 
  The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
  applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
  kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta
  ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta
  appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than
  monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.
 
  So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds
  and
  when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.
 
  That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
  installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the
  split ebuild again.
 
  HTH...
 
 Dirk

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi

As I'm still on KDE 3.X, I've got several package updates, but most of them
are blocking each other:

[blocks B ] kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 (kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kicker:3.5 (kde-base/kicker:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/libkonq:3.5 (kde-base/libkonq:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdeedu (kde-base/kdeedu is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/konqueror:3.5 (kde-base/konqueror:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdialog:3.5 (kde-base/kdialog:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (=kde-base/kdebase-3.5* is blocking
kde-base/kmenuedit-3.5.10, kde-base/kdialog-3.5.10,
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1, kde-base/kicker-3.5.10-r1,
kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5.10, kde-base/kfind-3.5.10,
kde-base/kcminit-3.5.10, kde-base/kdesu-3.5.10, kde-base/konqueror-3.5.10,
kde-base/khotkeys-3.5.10, kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5.10,
kde-base/libkonq-3.5.10, kde-base/kcontrol-3.5.10)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdeaddons (kde-base/kdeaddons is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdeutils (kde-base/kdeutils is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kcminit:3.5 (kde-base/kcminit:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kde (kde-base/kde is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdetoys (kde-base/kdetoys is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5
(kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kfind:3.5 (kde-base/kfind:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdepim (kde-base/kdepim is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase (kde-base/kdebase is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kmenuedit:3.5 (kde-base/kmenuedit:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdegraphics (kde-base/kdegraphics is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdewebdev (kde-base/kdewebdev is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdegames (kde-base/kdegames is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/khotkeys:3.5 (kde-base/khotkeys:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdenetwork (kde-base/kdenetwork is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-data:3.5 (kde-base/kdebase-data:3.5 is
blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdemultimedia (kde-base/kdemultimedia is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdeadmin (kde-base/kdeadmin is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdesu:3.5 (kde-base/kdesu:3.5 is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdeartwork (kde-base/kdeartwork is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6)
[blocks B ] kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 (kde-base/khelpcenter:3.5 is
blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4)

It looks like there's some issue in some packages being 3.5.10 and all the
rest being 3.5.9, but I have no keywords set in
/etc/portage/packages.keywords - perhaps I should.

Any hints?

Thanks a lot
Francisco

-- 
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -
George Bernard Shaw


Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:24:26 schrieb Francisco Ares:

 It looks like there's some issue in some packages being 3.5.10 and all the
 rest being 3.5.9, but I have no keywords set in
 /etc/portage/packages.keywords - perhaps I should.

Partly. It seems to be a mix of split ebuilds and monolithic ones. You should 
decide which one to use. The other part is indeed a version mix, because the 
monolithic ebuilds are still at 3.5.9.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:

 And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?

The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the same 
names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.

The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual 
applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of 
kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta ebuilds, 
which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta appended 
(kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than monolithic 
ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.

So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds and 
when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.

That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim 
installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the 
split ebuild again.

HTH...

Dirk




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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other

2009-06-12 Thread Francisco Ares
Thanks a lot!

Francisco

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.dewrote:

 Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:

  And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?

 The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the same
 names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.

 The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
 applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
 kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the -meta ebuilds,
 which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta appended
 (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications than monolithic
 ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.

 So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic ebuilds
 and
 when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.

 That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
 installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from the
 split ebuild again.

 HTH...

Dirk





-- 
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. -
George Bernard Shaw