Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. See my other reply: Nikos hit the point. I actually changed to nouveau because the desktop performance of nvidia-drivers sucked at the time. I still use nvidia-drivers in my media center (because of VDPAU), but in my desktop I changed about year and a half ago, and I'm pretty happy with it. Before that, I used nvidia-drivers for many years, and it was always full of ups and downs; some versions worked great, others were barely usable. The nouveau drivers have been consistently good, even for small 3D use (things like Blender). If you don't use (modern) games, I highly recommend the nouveau drivers. For a modern desktop they work great. Relevant to the thread, I believe: Open-Source NVIDIA Driver Approaches Stable State http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=nouveau_linux_stablenum=1 Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:36:06 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. See my other reply: Nikos hit the point. I actually changed to nouveau because the desktop performance of nvidia-drivers sucked at the time. I still use nvidia-drivers in my media center (because of VDPAU), but in my desktop I changed about year and a half ago, and I'm pretty happy with it. Before that, I used nvidia-drivers for many years, and it was always full of ups and downs; some versions worked great, others were barely usable. The nouveau drivers have been consistently good, even for small 3D use (things like Blender). If you don't use (modern) games, I highly recommend the nouveau drivers. For a modern desktop they work great. I'll second that. I don't need blazing fast 3D performance, I do need stable drivers that keep pace with kernel releases. I got tired of having to remember to fully test nvidia-drivers every time I did a kernel upgrade so switched to nouveau. That was the previous laptop. This current one has an ATI card and I use ati drivers rather than fglrx for the same reason. The other killer was that I could never get nvidia-drivers to deal with a multi-monitor setup in any kind of sane fashion. nVidia does do multi-monitor, it just wants to present it in a way that made no sense to me at all. Even something as simple as unplugging my desk monitor and going to a meeting room to do a presentation on the projector required an X restart. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On 04/12/2012 09:09:16 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: That was the previous laptop. This current one has an ATI card and I use ati drivers rather than fglrx for the same reason. What's the difference (in performance) between fglrx and xf86-video-ati ? Do both of them support GPU usage? Thanks for some info, Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:06:17 +0200 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 04/12/2012 09:09:16 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: That was the previous laptop. This current one has an ATI card and I use ati drivers rather than fglrx for the same reason. What's the difference (in performance) between fglrx and xf86-video-ati ? Do both of them support GPU usage? To be truthful, I really don't know the details. My major overriding need is for the video driver to be in sync with the rest of my software at all times so that portage can just do the right thing (exactly like all the other drivers I use). As long as the right pixels light up at the right time on the screen and X does not crash, then I do not care about super video performance. The open source ATI drivers completely fulfil my needs. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 09:09:16AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:36:06 -0500 Canek Pel?ez Vald?s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. See my other reply: Nikos hit the point. I actually changed to nouveau because the desktop performance of nvidia-drivers sucked at the time. I still use nvidia-drivers in my media center (because of VDPAU), but in my desktop I changed about year and a half ago, and I'm pretty happy with it. Before that, I used nvidia-drivers for many years, and it was always full of ups and downs; some versions worked great, others were barely usable. The nouveau drivers have been consistently good, even for small 3D use (things like Blender). If you don't use (modern) games, I highly recommend the nouveau drivers. For a modern desktop they work great. I'll second that. I don't need blazing fast 3D performance, I do need stable drivers that keep pace with kernel releases. I got tired of having to remember to fully test nvidia-drivers every time I did a kernel upgrade so switched to nouveau. That was the previous laptop. This current one has an ATI card and I use ati drivers rather than fglrx for the same reason. The other killer was that I could never get nvidia-drivers to deal with a multi-monitor setup in any kind of sane fashion. nVidia does do multi-monitor, it just wants to present it in a way that made no sense to me at all. Even something as simple as unplugging my desk monitor and going to a meeting room to do a presentation on the projector required an X restart. Yes, nouveau is very adept at juggling monitors. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: What's the difference (in performance) between fglrx and xf86-video-ati ? My experience with my first and only ATI video card (a Mobility Radeon 9700), is that the opensource drivers for my chipset are basically useless for anything 3D. Slow, corrupt graphics, freezing the computer. The ati-drivers/fglrx was several times faster and much more stable. Unfortunately, ATI removed support for my card from their drivers in 2009, leaving me no choice but to use the OSS driver unless I want to downgrade my system to use kernel 2.6.28 or earlier.
[gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
Just being curious: I use my main workstation primarily for work. Ok, gnome3 needs some graphic acceleration, aside from that I can only think of the occasional mythfrontend running on my desktop. I consider to chose nouveau drivers instead of the nvidia-drivers-package. What are your recommendations? Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:38:50PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Just being curious: I use my main workstation primarily for work. Ok, gnome3 needs some graphic acceleration, aside from that I can only think of the occasional mythfrontend running on my desktop. I consider to chose nouveau drivers instead of the nvidia-drivers-package. What are your recommendations? Thanks, Stefan I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
The only reason I really use nvidia-drivers is because of VDPAU. Otherwise I can't watch HD videos on my media center. VDPAU works great, and I hope nouveau supports it or something equivalent eventually. Mythtv probably uses it, though that's just a guess. Alecks Gates, sent from Android on an HTC G2 On Apr 11, 2012 5:17 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:38:50PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Just being curious: I use my main workstation primarily for work. Ok, gnome3 needs some graphic acceleration, aside from that I can only think of the occasional mythfrontend running on my desktop. I consider to chose nouveau drivers instead of the nvidia-drivers-package. What are your recommendations? Thanks, Stefan I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. See my other reply: Nikos hit the point. S
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough for me. See my other reply: Nikos hit the point. I actually changed to nouveau because the desktop performance of nvidia-drivers sucked at the time. I still use nvidia-drivers in my media center (because of VDPAU), but in my desktop I changed about year and a half ago, and I'm pretty happy with it. Before that, I used nvidia-drivers for many years, and it was always full of ups and downs; some versions worked great, others were barely usable. The nouveau drivers have been consistently good, even for small 3D use (things like Blender). If you don't use (modern) games, I highly recommend the nouveau drivers. For a modern desktop they work great. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
