Re: [gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
1. install the windows ext2/3 driver.2. install rfsd (http://rfsd.sourceforge.net) to access reiserfs partitions. An alternative for accessingin read-only mode Linux drives isTotalCommander'sExt2+Reiser plugin. Ext2 and ext3 work fine. Never tried ReiserFS. Plugin to open Ext2 and Reiser file systems on your own machine! This is useful when you have Linux installed on the same machine (multi-boot) and want to access your files. For security reasons, this plugin is read-only. It combines two open source projects to access Ext2 partitions and Reiser partitions. This plugin is Open-Source (GPL). Version 1.3 fixes read errors with newer ReiserFS partitions.-- Liviu
Re: [gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
On Sunday 23 April 2006 03:00 Neil Bothwick was like: On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:05:37 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Howsabout using FAT32 (aka vfat) for the data partitions that need to be accessed by both Windows and Linux? Both Windows and Linux can read and write easily to vfat. FAT has a 4GB file size limit under Windows, 2GB under Linux, which makes it unsuitable for most multimedia usage. Thanks very much Neil and Walter for your advice. I think Neil is right about fat32. It also has other problems such as lack of permissions or journaling, as well as performance issues. However it is certainly the simplest way of sharing a partition between operating systems. I have installed rfsd in windows. It seems to work very well, but, unless I have missed something, it is a read-only driver. That can actually be useful if you want to access stuff from within windows without putting it at risk of virus damage. If I also mount my windows installation using the (read-only) ntfs driver under linux, then I have a way to share files in both directions, albeit not an ideal one. (I have considered using captive-ntfs for full r/w access, but I find the windows permissions don't work under linux, as far as I can tell.) I'll get around to trying out crossmeta for xfs read/write at some point soon and let you all know how it goes. Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:05:37 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Howsabout using FAT32 (aka vfat) for the data partitions that need to be accessed by both Windows and Linux? Both Windows and Linux can read and write easily to vfat. FAT has a 4GB file size limit under Windows, 2GB under Linux, which makes it unsuitable for most multimedia usage. -- Neil Bothwick Remember the good old days, when CPU was singular? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 06:11:55PM -0700, Robert Persson wrote The questions I have are: 1. What file system should I use for shared storage and scratchspace between the two OSs? 2. Would it be feasible and worthwhile to stripe a linux scratchspace volume across both disks? QUESTION 1: As far as the dual-booting is concerned, I will need to do it sometimes when there isn't a reliable *ix tool for the job, but I don't want to find myself trapped into using Windows for day-to-day stuff. For instance I may find myself forced to use Adobe Premiere for video editing now and then for the moment, but I would want to be gravitate back to Cinelerra as soon as some of the more serious bugs have been ironed out. For this reason, and also because I remember from my own past experience that NTFS is an unspeakable atrocity (even when accessed under windows) I have been thinking of keeping the Windows partition fairly small and of installing third-party driver(s) to access linux-native filesystems to share data, rather than the other way round. The three options I have for this are: 1. install the windows ext2/3 driver. 2. install rfsd (http://rfsd.sourceforge.net) to access reiserfs partitions. 3. Install the crossmeta XFS driver if I can get hold of it (I'm not sure whether it's part of the free NFS driver download on the website or not). Howsabout using FAT32 (aka vfat) for the data partitions that need to be accessed by both Windows and Linux? Both Windows and Linux can read and write easily to vfat. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:11:55 -0700, Robert Persson wrote: Am I correct in understanding that I can use LVM2 to stripe a volume across more than one disk, just like a raid 0 setup, even if the disks are quite dissimilar? Would it be possible (or worthwhile) to allocate my old 40GB disk and a portion of my new disk (say another 40GB) to a single logical volume to be used as a fast audio and video scratchspace? (For Linux, that is -- I am aware that it wouldn't be accessible from Windows). I would keep the rest of disk in normal partitions to reduce the risk of losing all my data to disk failure. It is perfectly possible, but performance may suffer if one disk is slower than the other, compared with using the fast disk alone. Another option may be to use the old disk for the operating systems and the new one for data. Speed of the OS disk only affects program loading time, you would then get maximum performance when using the programs. -- Neil Bothwick Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
On Thursday 20 April 2006 00:46 Neil Bothwick was like: Am I correct in understanding that I can use LVM2 to stripe a volume across more than one disk, just like a raid 0 setup, even if the disks are quite dissimilar? Would it be possible (or worthwhile) to allocate my old 40GB disk and a portion of my new disk (say another 40GB) to a single logical volume to be used as a fast audio and video scratchspace? (For Linux, that is -- I am aware that it wouldn't be accessible from Windows). I would keep the rest of disk in normal partitions to reduce the risk of losing all my data to disk failure. It is perfectly possible, but performance may suffer if one disk is slower than the other, compared with using the fast disk alone. Another option may be to use the old disk for the operating systems and the new one for data. Speed of the OS disk only affects program loading time, you would then get maximum performance when using the programs. Thanks for your help once again, Neil. The problem I am trying to solve is less about getting best all-round disk performance than it is to get super-duper disk performance when doing extremely disk intensive tasks such as video and audio editing. I'm not sure that having the OS or the swap on different disks because if I have enough memory I shouldn't need to access them very much while doing the audio and video stuff. The disks are probably not too dissimilar in terms of read and write speed (I'll need to look up the specs to verify this). However the cache sizes are quite different: 1MB as opposed to 8MB. Would the smaller cache make the older disk much slower in practice when it comes to writing or reading very large files -- slow enough to bog down the other one if a volume was striped across them? Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] partitioning for multimedia performance and dual-booting linux/windex
I have just acquired a nice big PATA disk and am now faced with the job of deciding how to partition it. I actually have two questions and I would be grateful for any thoughts. The current disk is a 40GB 133MHz one with 1MB cache. The new one is 250GB, 133MHz with 8MB cache. The reason for the new disk is to store multimedia samples, to allow dual-boot into windows for some multimedia work, and to get better read/write performance for sound, and perhaps also video editing. The questions I have are: 1. What file system should I use for shared storage and scratchspace between the two OSs? 2. Would it be feasible and worthwhile to stripe a linux scratchspace volume across both disks? QUESTION 1: As far as the dual-booting is concerned, I will need to do it sometimes when there isn't a reliable *ix tool for the job, but I don't want to find myself trapped into using Windows for day-to-day stuff. For instance I may find myself forced to use Adobe Premiere for video editing now and then for the moment, but I would want to be gravitate back to Cinelerra as soon as some of the more serious bugs have been ironed out. For this reason, and also because I remember from my own past experience that NTFS is an unspeakable atrocity (even when accessed under windows) I have been thinking of keeping the Windows partition fairly small and of installing third-party driver(s) to access linux-native filesystems to share data, rather than the other way round. The three options I have for this are: 1. install the windows ext2/3 driver. 2. install rfsd (http://rfsd.sourceforge.net) to access reiserfs partitions. 3. Install the crossmeta XFS driver if I can get hold of it (I'm not sure whether it's part of the free NFS driver download on the website or not). I imagine that one of these arrangments would be adequate for getting at my mp3s and oggs and stuff, but what kind of performance could I expect from these drivers, as compared to NTFS if I were to try audio multitracking, or even video manipulation? If I could get hold of that crossmeta XFS driver, would I get XFS big-file performance like I would under IRIX or Linux? The bottom line in all this is that, if there is a tradeoff to be made between Linux and Windows, it is Windows that must give way. XP once committed suicide on me three times in two weeks, forcing me to abandon an important project while I reinstalled the monstrosity. There can be no forgiveness for that. That's when I married the penguin. You should only marry people an operating systems you trust. QUESTION 2: I actually have an intel sata controller on my motherboard and so should be able to set a raid 0 array that is accessible from both linux and windows. Unfortunately I don't have the money to be buying a pair of sata disks at the moment, which is why I have got the extra pata disk to keep me going. Am I correct in understanding that I can use LVM2 to stripe a volume across more than one disk, just like a raid 0 setup, even if the disks are quite dissimilar? Would it be possible (or worthwhile) to allocate my old 40GB disk and a portion of my new disk (say another 40GB) to a single logical volume to be used as a fast audio and video scratchspace? (For Linux, that is -- I am aware that it wouldn't be accessible from Windows). I would keep the rest of disk in normal partitions to reduce the risk of losing all my data to disk failure. Would I, in the future be able to set up logical volumes spanning a larger mixed group of pata and sata disks? And would that make a serious enough difference to read/write performance to be worth doing? Many thanks Robert -- Robert Persson Conspiracy Bears: Once upon a time there were lots of conspiracy bears... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
