Re: [gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-30 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 12/30/2010 12:59 AM, kashani wrote:
 On 12/29/2010 1:36 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2010-12-29 3:50 PM, kashani wrote:
 On 12/29/2010 9:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1
 installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in
 /etc/passwd...

 snip

 I would consider a plan to upgrade to 2.3.2,

 I guess I could have been clearer - I said I was updating the system,
 and updating pfadmin to 2.3.2 is what I'm doing now... and I want to
 configure everything *correctly*. Right now, vacation has a shell, and
 it shouldn't - I just want to know if simply editing /etc/passwd is the
 correct way to fix it...

 but it would be far simpler to build a new system and switch over to
 it than upgrade in place. And safer.

 I already have the new pfadmin up and running, and I'll be switching
 over this weekend...

 Any idea about my other question:

 Also, out of curiosity - can /etc/passwd file contain comments?

 Thanks...

 
 Sure you can edit it directly though you'll break anyone currently using
 vacation as soon as you do. Make sure you fix /etc/shadow and /etc/group
 too. Or use usermod which would be the proper way to make the change.
 
 /etc/passwd shouldn't have stand alone comments which might cause weird
 problems with pwconv, grpconv, etc. Use the comment field of the user.
 
 kashani
 
See $ man -S5 passwd for the format of /etc/passwd. Or in short:

Each line of the file describes a single user, and has the following format:
  account:password:UID:GID:GECOS:directory:shell

So there is no comment allowed. But you can place this stuff in GECOS if
you like and need it. Will be visible to users though.

About editing /etc/passwd directly: don't! It can mess up your system,
so that noone can login anymore. The recomended way is $ usermod, the
direct way is $ vipw. It is a wrapper around vi that does simple
sytax checks, so you don't break things. I use it if I have to edit
/etc/passwd. There is also vigr :) $ vipw -s and $vigr -s lets you
edit the shadow files.

Bye,
Daniel


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[gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
Greetings,

I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1
installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in
/etc/passwd...

Can I just change it directly (by editing the file with a text editor)
without worrying about anything breaking?

Currently it is:

vacation:x:1003:65501::/home/vacation:/bin/bash

and I want to change it to be the same as the INSTALL.TXT recommends:

vacation:x:65501:65501::0:0:Virtual Vacation:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin

So, can I just edit the file and be done with it?

Also, out of curiosity - can /etc/passwd file contain comments?

Thanks...



Re: [gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-29 Thread kashani

On 12/29/2010 9:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

Greetings,

I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1
installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in
/etc/passwd...

Can I just change it directly (by editing the file with a text editor)
without worrying about anything breaking?

Currently it is:

vacation:x:1003:65501::/home/vacation:/bin/bash

and I want to change it to be the same as the INSTALL.TXT recommends:

vacation:x:65501:65501::0:0:Virtual Vacation:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin

So, can I just edit the file and be done with it?

Also, out of curiosity - can /etc/passwd file contain comments?

Thanks...



	To your original question, if it works I not would touch it. You may 
want to look in /home/vacation for .forward or other files that might be 
helping the vacation functions work if you do decide to change 
/etc/passwd. IIRC and it's been years vacation was a bit flakey under 
2.1 and it required a fair amount of undocumented tweaking to work 
correctly though it did get better in late 2.1.x.
	I would consider a plan to upgrade to 2.3.2, but it would be far 
simpler to build a new system and switch over to it than upgrade in 
place. And safer.


kashani



Re: [gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-29 3:50 PM, kashani wrote:
 On 12/29/2010 9:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1
 installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in
 /etc/passwd...

snip

 I would consider a plan to upgrade to 2.3.2,

I guess I could have been clearer - I said I was updating the system,
and updating pfadmin to 2.3.2 is what I'm doing now... and I want to
configure everything *correctly*. Right now, vacation has a shell, and
it shouldn't - I just want to know if simply editing /etc/passwd is the
correct way to fix it...

 but it would be far simpler to build a new system and switch over to
 it than upgrade in place. And safer.

I already have the new pfadmin up and running, and I'll be switching
over this weekend...

Any idea about my other question:

 Also, out of curiosity - can /etc/passwd file contain comments?

Thanks...



Re: [gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-29 Thread kashani

On 12/29/2010 1:36 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-12-29 3:50 PM, kashani wrote:

On 12/29/2010 9:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1
installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in
/etc/passwd...


snip


I would consider a plan to upgrade to 2.3.2,


I guess I could have been clearer - I said I was updating the system,
and updating pfadmin to 2.3.2 is what I'm doing now... and I want to
configure everything *correctly*. Right now, vacation has a shell, and
it shouldn't - I just want to know if simply editing /etc/passwd is the
correct way to fix it...


but it would be far simpler to build a new system and switch over to
it than upgrade in place. And safer.


I already have the new pfadmin up and running, and I'll be switching
over this weekend...

Any idea about my other question:


Also, out of curiosity - can /etc/passwd file contain comments?


Thanks...



Sure you can edit it directly though you'll break anyone currently using 
vacation as soon as you do. Make sure you fix /etc/shadow and /etc/group 
too. Or use usermod which would be the proper way to make the change.


/etc/passwd shouldn't have stand alone comments which might cause weird 
problems with pwconv, grpconv, etc. Use the comment field of the user.


kashani