Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 21:27:16 +0100, Wol wrote: > Does that mean an update typically cleans a replaced package > automagically? I thought that usually they got left behind and that was > why you needed depclean - to remove all the old versions? > > Certainly that's what I remember of depclean of old - the list of stuff > being cleaned was mostly old versions of what was installed. That is when updates to slotted packages are installed, wait until the next llvm/clang update. Old versions of a package in the same slot, or slot 0 for unslotted packages, are replaced with the new one, but new slots cause the behaviour you have seen. -- Neil Bothwick Why is there an expiration date on sour cream? pgpR7BgnJ98AO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 22:27, Wol wrote: > Does that mean an update typically cleans a replaced package > automagically? I thought that usually they got left behind and that was > why you needed depclean - to remove all the old versions? > > Certainly that's what I remember of depclean of old - the list of stuff > being cleaned was mostly old versions of what was installed. I don't remember that, although my memory might be less than stellar. Unless a package is slotted, an update replaces the old version, and hence nothing to depclean. Cheers, Arve
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On 30/09/2022 20:46, Matt Connell wrote: On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 20:36 +0100, Wol wrote: I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything out now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update world every week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's probably cleaned maybe one or two packages in the last month? Despite updating loads? Is that normal? Unless the dependencies of a package change (or you changed the resulting set of dependencies via USE changes), they aren't usually a whole lot of deps to clean. That's my experience anyway. When I'm flailing around a lot in package.use I'll have dozens but otherwise its usually just one or two here and there. Does that mean an update typically cleans a replaced package automagically? I thought that usually they got left behind and that was why you needed depclean - to remove all the old versions? Certainly that's what I remember of depclean of old - the list of stuff being cleaned was mostly old versions of what was installed. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 20:36 +0100, Wol wrote: > I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything out > now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update world every > week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's probably cleaned > maybe one or two packages in the last month? Despite updating loads? Is > that normal? Unless the dependencies of a package change (or you changed the resulting set of dependencies via USE changes), they aren't usually a whole lot of deps to clean. That's my experience anyway. When I'm flailing around a lot in package.use I'll have dozens but otherwise its usually just one or two here and there.
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 15:36:10 -0400, Wol wrote: > > On 30/09/2022 20:05, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a > > version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with > > subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced > > within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some > > point one way or another. > > Hmm ... > > I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything > out now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update > world every week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's > probably cleaned maybe one or two packages in the last month? > Despite updating loads? Is that normal? > > (Although I've not had any problems with depclean that a --bdeps > didn't resolve) Thank goodness for small favors from portage! I think more dependencies are brought in automatically. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On 30/09/2022 20:05, Arve Barsnes wrote: Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some point one way or another. Hmm ... I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything out now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update world every week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's probably cleaned maybe one or two packages in the last month? Despite updating loads? Is that normal? (Although I've not had any problems with depclean that a --bdeps didn't resolve) Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
OK, thanks. I will try an update after a couple of days. On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 15:05:43 -0400, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 20:47, John Covici wrote: > > > > Hi. So, when I tried to do my emerge depclean after my world update, > > which went through with no problems, I get the following message: > > > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to > > * the following required packages not being installed: > >* > > * >=app-text/poppler-0.16.0:0/123=[cairo] pulled in by: > > * app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0 > > > > But I have: > > > > ebuild R] app-text/poppler-22.09.0:0/124::gentoo USE="cairo cxx > > introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt5 tiff utils -boost -cjk -curl > > -debug -doc -nss -verify-sig" > > and > > ebuild R] app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0:3::gentoo USE="exif gif > > gstreamer iso jpeg networkmanager pdf playlist rss (seccomp) tiff > > upower xml -cue -ffmpeg -gsf -iptc -raw -test -xmp -xps" > > > > So, what have I done wrong this time -- or is it some kind of bug > > somewhere? > > Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a > version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with > subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced > within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some > point one way or another. > > Regards, > Arve > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 20:47, John Covici wrote: > > Hi. So, when I tried to do my emerge depclean after my world update, > which went through with no problems, I get the following message: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to > * the following required packages not being installed: >* > * >=app-text/poppler-0.16.0:0/123=[cairo] pulled in by: > * app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0 > > But I have: > > ebuild R] app-text/poppler-22.09.0:0/124::gentoo USE="cairo cxx > introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt5 tiff utils -boost -cjk -curl > -debug -doc -nss -verify-sig" > and > ebuild R] app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0:3::gentoo USE="exif gif > gstreamer iso jpeg networkmanager pdf playlist rss (seccomp) tiff > upower xml -cue -ffmpeg -gsf -iptc -raw -test -xmp -xps" > > So, what have I done wrong this time -- or is it some kind of bug > somewhere? Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some point one way or another. Regards, Arve
[gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update
Hi. So, when I tried to do my emerge depclean after my world update, which went through with no problems, I get the following message: Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not being installed: * * >=app-text/poppler-0.16.0:0/123=[cairo] pulled in by: * app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0 But I have: ebuild R] app-text/poppler-22.09.0:0/124::gentoo USE="cairo cxx introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt5 tiff utils -boost -cjk -curl -debug -doc -nss -verify-sig" and ebuild R] app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0:3::gentoo USE="exif gif gstreamer iso jpeg networkmanager pdf playlist rss (seccomp) tiff upower xml -cue -ffmpeg -gsf -iptc -raw -test -xmp -xps" So, what have I done wrong this time -- or is it some kind of bug somewhere? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com