Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:52:24 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

 Thanks: Xulrunner is a big pkg in itself, but it seems unavoidable.

It is entirely avoidable, by setting USE=-nsplugins. If you want to
view documents in Firefox, you would already have xulrunner installed, so
there's no problem there either.


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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-20 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 07:58:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote

 It's an office suite - I use it mostly to read documents other people
 send me, and because antiword is a little too minimal.

  I'm happy with abiword for word processing and gnumeric for
spreadsheet stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 20 October 2008 12:26:11 Erik Hahn wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 07:58:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  For probably the first time ever, I just had a look at that. And I'm
  asking myself - why does OOo have nsplugins support at all?
 
  It's an office suite - I use it mostly to read documents other people
  send me, and because antiword is a little too minimal. What could OOo
  possibly do in my specific case that requires browser plugins? It's not
  like I'm in the habit of embedding java and flash applets into impress
  presentations

 With that use flag it provides plugins for viewing documents inside the
 browser,

Oh, OK. 

So the flag lets browsers use OOo stuff, rather than the other way round as I 
assumed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-20 Thread Erik Hahn
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 07:58:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 For probably the first time ever, I just had a look at that. And I'm asking 
 myself - why does OOo have nsplugins support at all?
 
 It's an office suite - I use it mostly to read documents other people send 
 me, 
 and because antiword is a little too minimal. What could OOo possibly do in 
 my specific case that requires browser plugins? It's not like I'm in the 
 habit of embedding java and flash applets into impress presentations

With that use flag it provides plugins for viewing documents inside the
browser,

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-20 Thread Erik Hahn
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 20 October 2008 12:26:11 Erik Hahn wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 07:58:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   For probably the first time ever, I just had a look at that. And I'm
   asking myself - why does OOo have nsplugins support at all?
  
   It's an office suite - I use it mostly to read documents other people
   send me, and because antiword is a little too minimal. What could OOo
   possibly do in my specific case that requires browser plugins? It's not
   like I'm in the habit of embedding java and flash applets into impress
   presentations
 
  With that use flag it provides plugins for viewing documents inside the
  browser,
 
 Oh, OK. 
 
 So the flag lets browsers use OOo stuff, rather than the other way round as I 
 assumed?

Yes, more or less like some PDF viewers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread Philip Webb
081019 Philip Webb wrote:
 OO 3.0.0 compiled successfully in   2 h 29 m  on this Core2 Duo machine,
 but needed  5,3 MB  temporary disk space (ok here, but others beware).

Sorry, that's  = 5,3 GB  ... (red face)

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote:
 081019 Philip Webb wrote:
   
 OO 3.0.0 compiled successfully in   2 h 29 m  on this Core2 Duo machine,
 but needed  5,3 MB  temporary disk space (ok here, but others beware).
 

 Sorry, that's  = 5,3 GB  ... (red face)

   

Don't worry, we knew that was a boo boo.  OOo can't even load in that
little bit of ram much less compile.

I'm in the download step and will be for a lnngg
time.  Stinking dial-up.  I need a lappy and a McDonalds burger. 
Wireless broadband there.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 19 October 2008 07:25:28 Philip Webb wrote:
 OO 3.0.0 compiled successfully in   2 h 29 m  on this Core2 Duo machine,
 but needed  5,3 MB  temporary disk space (ok here, but others beware).
 It opened my usual spreadsheets  word-processing files correctly,
 but the toolbar needs attention tomorrow.  Download is  346 MB .

Build time is coming down I see. The first time I build OOo (on a 686 amd) it 
took 12 hours. Now I get similar to you - 2h14

 Does anyone know why it wants 'xulrunner', which is not a use flag here ?

It's this:

DEPEND=${COMMON_DEPEND}
nsplugin? ( || ( net-libs/xulrunner:1.8 net-libs/xulrunner:1.9 
=www-client/seamonkey-1* )
=dev-libs/nspr-4.6.6
=dev-libs/nss-3.11-r1 )

And later we have this snippet:

pkg_setup() {
if use nsplugin; then
if pkg-config --exists libxul; then
BRWS=libxul
elif pkg-config --exists xulrunner-xpcom; then
BRWS=xulrunner
elif pkg-config --exists seamonkey-xpcom; then
BRWS=seamonkey
else
die USE flag [nsplugin] set but no installed 
xulrunner or seamonkey found!
fi
fi
}

So basically it is dependant on the nsplugin USE flag, and will look for 
xulrunner or seamonkey to build against. If neither are found, you have an 
error condition.


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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread luis jure
on 2008-10-19 at 01:25 Philip Webb wrote:

Dillo 2.0 has been announced:

well, _that_ is good news. 

visiting the dillo home page (http://www.dillo.org/) i see that dillo
2.0 has been released, and there's even something about 2.1 in the
changelog. would it be too difficult to update the ebuild?

best,

lj



Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread Philip Webb
081019 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 19 October 2008 07:25:28 Philip Webb wrote:
 Does anyone know why it wants 'xulrunner', which is not a use flag here ?
 It's this [details snipped: thanks]:
 So basically it is dependant on the nsplugin USE flag
 and will look for xulrunner or seamonkey to build against.
 If neither are found, you have an error condition.

Thanks: Xulrunner is a big pkg in itself, but it seems unavoidable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 19 October 2008 18:52:24 Philip Webb wrote:
 081019 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 19 October 2008 07:25:28 Philip Webb wrote:
  Does anyone know why it wants 'xulrunner', which is not a use flag here
  ?
 
  It's this [details snipped: thanks]:
  So basically it is dependant on the nsplugin USE flag
  and will look for xulrunner or seamonkey to build against.
  If neither are found, you have an error condition.

 Thanks: Xulrunner is a big pkg in itself, but it seems unavoidable.

For probably the first time ever, I just had a look at that. And I'm asking 
myself - why does OOo have nsplugins support at all?

It's an office suite - I use it mostly to read documents other people send me, 
and because antiword is a little too minimal. What could OOo possibly do in 
my specific case that requires browser plugins? It's not like I'm in the 
habit of embedding java and flash applets into impress presentations

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-19 Thread KH
Philip Webb schrieb:
 081019 Philip Webb wrote:
   
 OO 3.0.0 compiled successfully in   2 h 29 m  on this Core2 Duo machine,
 but needed  5,3 MB  temporary disk space (ok here, but others beware).
 

 Sorry, that's  = 5,3 GB  ... (red face)

   
Thanks for that info. Than I will have to build it without tmpfs. It's
much faster when it's only in ram.

kh



[gentoo-user] progress everywhere !

2008-10-18 Thread Philip Webb
OO 3.0.0 compiled successfully in   2 h 29 m  on this Core2 Duo machine,
but needed  5,3 MB  temporary disk space (ok here, but others beware).
It opened my usual spreadsheets  word-processing files correctly,
but the toolbar needs attention tomorrow.  Download is  346 MB .

Does anyone know why it wants 'xulrunner', which is not a use flag here ?

Portage has passed the  13 K  mark for packages.

Dillo 2.0 has been announced: it's very good to see it raised from the dead
 hopefully it will find its way into Gentoo fairly soon (smile to devs).

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