Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-17 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Raffaele Belardi
 wrote:
> András Csányi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Check this page:
>> https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html
>
> I'm not the OP but am interested in the topic and currently just a noob in 
> Python.
>
> I'd use Python to develop programs for fun on an ARM-linux embedded board, 
> with the host
> PC running Gentoo. I suppose that for debugging on the target I'd need this 
> feature:
> "Remote run/debug" which is available only in the Pro edition, right?
>

Yes. For all interested there is a .jar going around that has been
modified to avoid the license check that is as far as I can tell safe;
it does not require a network connection.

There is also PyDev, based on Eclipse. Remote debug (which entails
running) can be found documented at
http://www.pydev.org/manual_adv_remote_debugger.html.

Usually what I see is either sftp or rsync (over ssh) to the remote
computer, then ssh to run the updated files. Alternatively you can ssh
to the remote host and run vim within that session.

Cheers,
R0b0t1



Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-17 Thread Raffaele Belardi
András Csányi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Check this page:
> https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html

I'm not the OP but am interested in the topic and currently just a noob in 
Python.

I'd use Python to develop programs for fun on an ARM-linux embedded board, with 
the host
PC running Gentoo. I suppose that for debugging on the target I'd need this 
feature:
"Remote run/debug" which is available only in the Pro edition, right?

thanks,

raffaele





Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-16 Thread gevisz
вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 10:57, Arve Barsnes :
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 09:15, gevisz  wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply. Does it means that pycharm-professional package
> > in Gentoo will not work or will not install without providing a license 
> > number
> > from JetBrains or something like that?
> >
> > On the official pycharm site, the professional version of pycharm is 
> > provided
> > with 30-day trial period. After end of that trial period, the
> > professional license
> > should be bought. That let me wonder if some payment will be necessary
> > for using pycharm-professional in Gentoo as well from the very beginning.
> > I just have not formulated it clearly in my initial question.
> >
>
> It is the same package as you get from JetBrains, so you still get the
> 30 days trial.

Ok, thank you for the information.



Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 09:15, gevisz  wrote:
> Thank you for your reply. Does it means that pycharm-professional package
> in Gentoo will not work or will not install without providing a license number
> from JetBrains or something like that?
>
> On the official pycharm site, the professional version of pycharm is provided
> with 30-day trial period. After end of that trial period, the
> professional license
> should be bought. That let me wonder if some payment will be necessary
> for using pycharm-professional in Gentoo as well from the very beginning.
> I just have not formulated it clearly in my initial question.
>

It is the same package as you get from JetBrains, so you still get the
30 days trial.

Cheers,
Arve



Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-16 Thread gevisz
вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 1:43, András Csányi :
>
> https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html

Thank you for the link. It almost completely answers my initial question.

The only question that I still have about pycharm-professional is given below,
after the quote from previous e-mails.

> On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 15:41, Andrew Udvare  wrote:
> > > On Sep 15, 2018, at 18:31, gevisz  wrote:
> > >
> > > In short: What is the difference between pycharm-community and
> > > pycharm-professional Gentoo packages.
> >
> > Pretty sure one is completely free and limited in functionality and 
> > professional
> > requires a license from JetBrains.
> >
> > If you have a license, install pycharm-professional.

Thank you for your reply. Does it means that pycharm-professional package
in Gentoo will not work or will not install without providing a license number
from JetBrains or something like that?

On the official pycharm site, the professional version of pycharm is provided
with 30-day trial period. After end of that trial period, the
professional license
should be bought. That let me wonder if some payment will be necessary
for using pycharm-professional in Gentoo as well from the very beginning.
I just have not formulated it clearly in my initial question.



Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-15 Thread András Csányi
Hi,

Check this page:
https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html

On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 15:41, Andrew Udvare  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 15, 2018, at 18:31, gevisz  wrote:
> >
> > In short: What is the difference between pycharm-community and
> > pycharm-professional Gentoo packages.
>
> Pretty sure one is completely free and limited in functionality and 
> professional requires a license from JetBrains.
>
> If you have a license, install pycharm-professional.
>
> Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-15 Thread Andrew Udvare



> On Sep 15, 2018, at 18:31, gevisz  wrote:
> 
> In short: What is the difference between pycharm-community and
> pycharm-professional Gentoo packages.

Pretty sure one is completely free and limited in functionality and 
professional requires a license from JetBrains.

If you have a license, install pycharm-professional.

Andrew


[gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional

2018-09-15 Thread gevisz
In short: What is the difference between pycharm-community and
pycharm-professional Gentoo packages.

Not essential details are given below.

Some time ago a friend of mine asked me to install Ubuntu to his quite
an old computer:
Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2160 processor (without multithreading), only
2GB of RAM and
the motherboard does not allow more, etc.

In spite of my hate of Ubuntu, I installed for him Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
and, as a side effect,
have found out that it became much, much worse than Ubuntu 10.04 LST,
that I used
before switching to Gentoo after the release of Ubuntu 12.04 LST (with
Unity), even worse
than Ubuntu 12.04 LST that forced me to switch out of Ubuntu. (I would
even say that
Ubuntu 18.04 LST became a real piece of bull shit. Sorry for my French.)

Yesterday, the said friend of mine called to me and informed me that
his Ubuntu 18.04 LST
is broken (after he somehow tried to deinstall Python3 because he
needed only Python2 :).

"apt-get install python" and "apt-get install python3" commands did not helped.

After that I said to him that he has the following two options:
1) install Ubuntu 18.04 himself with my on-call help,
2) bring me his old computer again and allow me to install there Gentoo,
as I don't want to see Ubuntu 18.04 any more.

He has chosen the latter.

So, now I have to install for him basic Gentoo and some other programs
including pycharm, vpn, skype4linux, etc.

Doing this, I have to choose between pycharm-community and
pycharm-professional but I do now nothing about them.

So, I decided to ask if somebody in this mailing list can tell me what
is the difference between pycharm-community and pycharm-professional
Gentoo packages.

Thank you in advance.