Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-07 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:16:37 +
schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:

 On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:11:26 Matti Nykyri wrote:
   On Dec 4, 2014, at 22:21, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
   
   On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +, thegeezer wrote:
   In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
   as well, am I correct?
   
   yes
   
   You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
   instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
   with just a kernel driver.
  
  Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and
  directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.
 
 This is right, ntfs-3g is a safe way of accessing NTFS from Linux.
 
 Just mentioned in passing that the ntfs in-kernel driver is really good for 
 recovering corrupted NTFS partitions.  I tried the same with ntfs-3g and it 
 couldn't read it.  The kernel driver had no problem doing so.  YMMV.

In that vein: a couple of years ago I rescued data from a neighbours Windows 7
drive with ddrescue and, because ddrescue was stuck at the last 0.x percent,
ntfsck, which was part of the ntfsprogs package at the time, and (I think) was
already being developed as part of ntfs3g.

I was pleasantly surprised that it worked.

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Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-07 Thread Marc Stürmer

Am 06.12.2014 um 00:16 schrieb Mick:


Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and
directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.


This is right, ntfs-3g is a safe way of accessing NTFS from Linux.


Actually, while there is a NTFS-kernel driver, this driver is mostly 
stable only for reading files, but not writing files.


If you need to use NTFS on a regular basis under Linux, you want to use 
the FUSE ntfs-3g. It is far more advanced and far more stable than the 
kernel driver.




Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-05 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Dec 4, 2014, at 22:21, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 
 On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +, thegeezer wrote:
 
 In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
 as well, am I correct?
 yes
 
 You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
 instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
 with just a kernel driver.

Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and 
directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.

-- 
-Matti


Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-05 Thread Mick
On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:11:26 Matti Nykyri wrote:
  On Dec 4, 2014, at 22:21, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
  
  On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +, thegeezer wrote:
  In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
  as well, am I correct?
  
  yes
  
  You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
  instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
  with just a kernel driver.
 
 Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and
 directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.

This is right, ntfs-3g is a safe way of accessing NTFS from Linux.

Just mentioned in passing that the ntfs in-kernel driver is really good for 
recovering corrupted NTFS partitions.  I tried the same with ntfs-3g and it 
couldn't read it.  The kernel driver had no problem doing so.  YMMV.

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Mick


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[gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-04 Thread Joseph

I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7 shares 
(folder) via samba on Linux.
I think, I need to enable CONFIG_NTFS_FS in kernel?

In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel as well, 
am I correct?

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Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-04 Thread thegeezer
On 04/12/14 18:49, Joseph wrote:
 I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7
 shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
 I think, I need to enable CONFIG_NTFS_FS in kernel?
no just cifs

 In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
 as well, am I correct?

yes



Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-04 Thread Joseph

On 12/04/14 19:15, thegeezer wrote:

On 04/12/14 18:49, Joseph wrote:

I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7
shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
I think, I need to enable CONFIG_NTFS_FS in kernel?

no just cifs


In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
as well, am I correct?


yes


You are correct, but I think I only need NTFS in Kernel if I want to mount USB 
stick on Linux amd read/wrote to it.
I got around and used VB Windows 7 to format USB to NTFS and transfer the files 
from Linux to UBS via shared folder.

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Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-04 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 4 December 2014 19:49:35 CET, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7
shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
I think, I need to enable CONFIG_NTFS_FS in kernel?


No. CIFS and install Samba.

In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
as well, am I correct?

No. Fuse support and install ntfs3g.

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Joost

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Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS

2014-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +, thegeezer wrote:

  In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
  as well, am I correct?
   
 yes
 

You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
with just a kernel driver.

-- 
Neil Bothwick

Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!


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