Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/03/2013 01:09, Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:16:07AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote
 On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:24:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 A useful trick I use on my Gentoo test/dev vms is a defined set called
 @tools. These all use a shared /etc/portage/ for consistency, so add bc
 to the set and it is merged everywhere. This helps keep my world free of
 clutter.

 I do a similar thing, I have a set called @base, the first thing I do
 after unpacking a stage 3 and setting up make.conf is emerge @base. It
 means I have everything I expect on a computer and also shortcuts some of
 the install steps.
 
   How are the portage-2.2.0 alphas for stability/bugs (hopefully lack
 thereof)?  I see alpha163 and alpha166 available.
 

I find them very stable and bug-free, haven't had an issue with them
since the -rc series started (that's what? 2 years ago? more?)

I think Zac uses the alphas to test how well his ideas work in practice,
each version numbers seems to implement one new idea at a time. Things
stay in or come out based on how well they behave in the real world, so
there is some feature churn but very few bugs as such. He must be doing
decent testing on his end before pushing updates out :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/03/2013 21:06, Grant wrote:
 My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops.  I have the config
 on both as close as possible.  We use identical kernel config files,
 but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc
 and it looks like she can not.  Does anyone know why this would
 happen?

 BC  kernel/timeconst.h
 /bin/sh: bc: command not found
 make[1]: *** [kernel/timeconst.h] Error 127
 make: *** [kernel] Error 2

 It seems that sys-devel/bc is now required to build the kernel ⁽¹⁾.

 On your system, are you sure that you don't have bc installed as a
 dependency of another tool ?
 
 It turns out I have /usr/bin/bc but portage didn't know about it.
 equery says it doesn't belong to any package.  Should sys-devel/bc be
 in the world file or are the profiles going to add it?

Looks like it's one of those useful packages that doesn't quite make it
into @system, but is pulled in as a dep from all sorts of interesting
places. Here I get:

$ equery depends bc
 * These packages depend on bc:
dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8y (test ? sys-devel/bc)
dev-libs/openssl-1.0.1e (test ? sys-devel/bc)
net-print/cups-filters-1.0.29-r1 (sys-devel/bc)
sci-geosciences/gpsd-3.7 (test ? sys-devel/bc)
x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.20 (sys-devel/bc)


A useful trick I use on my Gentoo test/dev vms is a defined set called
@tools. These all use a shared /etc/portage/ for consistency, so add bc
to the set and it is merged everywhere. This helps keep my world free of
clutter.


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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:24:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 A useful trick I use on my Gentoo test/dev vms is a defined set called
 @tools. These all use a shared /etc/portage/ for consistency, so add bc
 to the set and it is merged everywhere. This helps keep my world free of
 clutter.

I do a similar thing, I have a set called @base, the first thing I do
after unpacking a stage 3 and setting up make.conf is emerge @base. It
means I have everything I expect on a computer and also shortcuts some of
the install steps.


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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:16:07AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote
 On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:24:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
  A useful trick I use on my Gentoo test/dev vms is a defined set called
  @tools. These all use a shared /etc/portage/ for consistency, so add bc
  to the set and it is merged everywhere. This helps keep my world free of
  clutter.
 
 I do a similar thing, I have a set called @base, the first thing I do
 after unpacking a stage 3 and setting up make.conf is emerge @base. It
 means I have everything I expect on a computer and also shortcuts some of
 the install steps.

  How are the portage-2.2.0 alphas for stability/bugs (hopefully lack
thereof)?  I see alpha163 and alpha166 available.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-13 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:16:07AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote
 On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:24:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 A useful trick I use on my Gentoo test/dev vms is a defined set called
 @tools. These all use a shared /etc/portage/ for consistency, so add bc
 to the set and it is merged everywhere. This helps keep my world free of
 clutter.
 I do a similar thing, I have a set called @base, the first thing I do
 after unpacking a stage 3 and setting up make.conf is emerge @base. It
 means I have everything I expect on a computer and also shortcuts some of
 the install steps.
   How are the portage-2.2.0 alphas for stability/bugs (hopefully lack
 thereof)?  I see alpha163 and alpha166 available.


I added portage to the keyword file then masked the  version a good
long while back.  I'm on sys-apps/portage-2.2.0_alpha166 and I have not
had any troubles so far.  Your mileage may vary tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:09:49 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

  I do a similar thing, I have a set called @base, the first thing I do
  after unpacking a stage 3 and setting up make.conf is emerge @base. It
  means I have everything I expect on a computer and also shortcuts
  some of the install steps.  
 
   How are the portage-2.2.0 alphas for stability/bugs (hopefully lack
 thereof)?  I see alpha163 and alpha166 available.

They've been rock solid for me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread netfab
Le 11/03/13 à 14:59, Grant a tapoté :
 My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops.  I have the config
 on both as close as possible.  We use identical kernel config files,
 but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc
 and it looks like she can not.  Does anyone know why this would
 happen?
 
 BC  kernel/timeconst.h
 /bin/sh: bc: command not found
 make[1]: *** [kernel/timeconst.h] Error 127
 make: *** [kernel] Error 2

It seems that sys-devel/bc is now required to build the kernel ⁽¹⁾.

On your system, are you sure that you don't have bc installed as a
dependency of another tool ?

¹ 
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=70730bca1331fc50c3caacaea00439de1325bd6e



Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread Philip Webb
130311 Grant wrote:
 My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops.
 I have the config on both as close as possible.
 We use identical kernel config files,
 but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc
 and it looks like she can not.  Does anyone know why this would happen?
   BC  kernel/timeconst.h
   /bin/sh: bc: command not found
   make[1]: *** [kernel/timeconst.h] Error 127
   make: *** [kernel] Error 2

On my system :

  root:501 ~ emerge -cpv bc
sys-devel/bc-1.06.95-r1 pulled in by:
x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.20 requires sys-devel/bc
  
  root:503 ~ uname -a
Linux localhost 3.5.3-gentoo #5 SMP Sun Jan 20 03:01:39 EST 2013 ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread Grant
 My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops.  I have the config
 on both as close as possible.  We use identical kernel config files,
 but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc
 and it looks like she can not.  Does anyone know why this would
 happen?

 BC  kernel/timeconst.h
 /bin/sh: bc: command not found
 make[1]: *** [kernel/timeconst.h] Error 127
 make: *** [kernel] Error 2

 It seems that sys-devel/bc is now required to build the kernel ⁽¹⁾.

 On your system, are you sure that you don't have bc installed as a
 dependency of another tool ?

It turns out I have /usr/bin/bc but portage didn't know about it.
equery says it doesn't belong to any package.  Should sys-devel/bc be
in the world file or are the profiles going to add it?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops.  I have the config
 on both as close as possible.  We use identical kernel config files,
 but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc
 and it looks like she can not.  Does anyone know why this would
 happen?

 BC  kernel/timeconst.h
 /bin/sh: bc: command not found
 make[1]: *** [kernel/timeconst.h] Error 127
 make: *** [kernel] Error 2

 It seems that sys-devel/bc is now required to build the kernel ⁽¹⁾.

 On your system, are you sure that you don't have bc installed as a
 dependency of another tool ?

 It turns out I have /usr/bin/bc but portage didn't know about it.
 equery says it doesn't belong to any package.  Should sys-devel/bc be
 in the world file or are the profiles going to add it?


File a bug; we probably need to add it as a dependency of the kernel sources.



[gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-11 Thread Grant
My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops.  I have the config
on both as close as possible.  We use identical kernel config files,
but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc
and it looks like she can not.  Does anyone know why this would
happen?

BC  kernel/timeconst.h
/bin/sh: bc: command not found
make[1]: *** [kernel/timeconst.h] Error 127
make: *** [kernel] Error 2

- Grant