Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 09/02/2021 04:44, cal wrote: but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I have to type manually: startxfce4 I see you have already solved your problem. But it bears mentioning: .xinitrc is executed by runing `startx`, not by the login shell. Indeed, I don't know what "rc" at the end stands for, but if a file ends in rc it is almost always a *config* file, which is *read* by the target of interest. It is in no way shape or form an executable of any sort. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/9/21 5:04 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: On 2/8/21 9:59 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: On 2/8/21 9:44 PM, cal wrote: [snip] When I'm directly in front of the PC and I have a log-in screen and type user ID + passwords I was under impression that "startxfce4" would run automatically when from .xinitrc ~/.xinitrc exec startxfce4 but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I have to type manually: startxfce4 I see you have already solved your problem. But it bears mentioning: .xinitrc is executed by runing `startx`, not by the login shell. I see, so instead of going around and calling .xinitrc from .bash_profile why not call startxfce4 directly from .bash_profile Instead of: if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startx; fi start as: if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startxfce4; fi It should work. With the above setup starting "startxfce4" from .bash_profile, I get an error when ssh: "No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding." This error does not show up when "startxfce4" is run from .xinitrc I don't know what difference it makes how xfce4 is started. startx does some additional work besides just running the .xinitrc script. If you are not using a display manager, startx is the correct way to start X, with .xinitrc containing the commands to launch your window manager. My .xinitrc: if [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ]; then for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/*; do [ -x "$f" ] && . "$f" done unset f fi exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session i3
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/8/21 9:59 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 2/8/21 9:44 PM, cal wrote: > [snip] >>> >>> When I'm directly in front of the PC and I have a log-in screen and type >>> user ID + passwords >>> I was under impression that "startxfce4" would run automatically when from >>> .xinitrc >>> ~/.xinitrc >>> exec startxfce4 >>> >>> but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I >>> have to type manually: startxfce4 >>> >> I see you have already solved your problem. But it bears mentioning: >> .xinitrc is executed by runing `startx`, not by the login shell. > > I see, so instead of going around and calling .xinitrc from .bash_profile > > why not call startxfce4 directly from .bash_profile > > Instead of: > if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startx; fi > > start as: > if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startxfce4; fi > > It should work. With the above setup starting "startxfce4" from .bash_profile, I get an error when ssh: "No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding." This error does not show up when "startxfce4" is run from .xinitrc I don't know what difference it makes how xfce4 is started.
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/8/21 9:44 PM, cal wrote: [snip] >> >> When I'm directly in front of the PC and I have a log-in screen and type >> user ID + passwords >> I was under impression that "startxfce4" would run automatically when from >> .xinitrc >> ~/.xinitrc >> exec startxfce4 >> >> but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I >> have to type manually: startxfce4 >> > I see you have already solved your problem. But it bears mentioning: > .xinitrc is executed by runing `startx`, not by the login shell. I see, so instead of going around and calling .xinitrc from .bash_profile why not call startxfce4 directly from .bash_profile Instead of: if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startx; fi start as: if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startxfce4; fi It should work.
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/7/21 11:38 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: On 2/7/21 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:10:50 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: On 2/7/21 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 01:28:39 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display manger (for simplicity). I start X from: ~/.bash_profile exec startx -- vt1 but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied) Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you must start X from .bash_profile, you need something like [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... to only start it when not using SSH. What do you suggest? I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting more unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over ssh and use x2go session. Why do you need to start X, doesn't x2go run its own X session? You are trying to start X in an SSH session, which is what gives your error. The line I suggested runs startx only if you are not logging in via SSH. No display manager is involved. Maybe I wasn't clear. No, I don't start any X over ssh. When I'm directly in front of the PC and I have a log-in screen and type user ID + passwords I was under impression that "startxfce4" would run automatically when from .xinitrc ~/.xinitrc exec startxfce4 but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I have to type manually: startxfce4 I see you have already solved your problem. But it bears mentioning: .xinitrc is executed by runing `startx`, not by the login shell.
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 14:01:57 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... > > > > to only start it when not using SSH. > > What do you suggest? > I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting > more unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over > ssh and use x2go session. > >>> > >>> Why do you need to start X, doesn't x2go run its own X session? You > >>> are trying to start X in an SSH session, which is what gives your > >>> error. The line I suggested runs startx only if you are not logging > >>> in via SSH. No display manager is involved. > >> > >> Maybe I wasn't clear. No, I don't start any X over ssh. > > > > But you do, because you run it from .bash_profile whenever you login. > > That's why I suggested an alternative command that wouldn't do that. > > OK, according to Gentoo-wiki: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Start_X_on_login > > ~/.bash_profile > if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startx; fi > The above command works. It is effectively the same as the one I suggested right at the start of this thread. -- Neil Bothwick Windows95 - crash compatible on Windows 3.x pgpRuUQsb4RY1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/7/21 1:14 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:38:25 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display >> manger (for simplicity). I start X from: >> >> ~/.bash_profile >> exec startx -- vt1 >> >> but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: >> >> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" >> (EE) >> Fatal server error: >> (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission >> denied) > > Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you > must start X from .bash_profile, you need something like > > [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... > > to only start it when not using SSH. What do you suggest? I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting more unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over ssh and use x2go session. >>> >>> Why do you need to start X, doesn't x2go run its own X session? You >>> are trying to start X in an SSH session, which is what gives your >>> error. The line I suggested runs startx only if you are not logging >>> in via SSH. No display manager is involved. >> >> Maybe I wasn't clear. No, I don't start any X over ssh. > > But you do, because you run it from .bash_profile whenever you login. > That's why I suggested an alternative command that wouldn't do that. OK, according to Gentoo-wiki: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Start_X_on_login ~/.bash_profile if [[ -z $DISPLAY ]] && [[ $(tty) = /dev/tty1 ]]; then exec startx; fi The above command works. with: ~/.xinitrc exec startxfce4 Both ssh and x2go sessions (both: connect to local desktop and XFCE) work correctly.
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:38:25 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display > manger (for simplicity). I start X from: > > ~/.bash_profile > exec startx -- vt1 > > but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: > > (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" > (EE) > Fatal server error: > (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission > denied) > >>> > >>> Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you > >>> must start X from .bash_profile, you need something like > >>> > >>> [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... > >>> > >>> to only start it when not using SSH. > >> > >> What do you suggest? > >> I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting more > >> unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over ssh and > >> use x2go session. > > > > Why do you need to start X, doesn't x2go run its own X session? You > > are trying to start X in an SSH session, which is what gives your > > error. The line I suggested runs startx only if you are not logging > > in via SSH. No display manager is involved. > > Maybe I wasn't clear. No, I don't start any X over ssh. But you do, because you run it from .bash_profile whenever you login. That's why I suggested an alternative command that wouldn't do that. -- Neil Bothwick Hospitality: making your guests feel like they're at home, even if you wish they were. pgpFeyuXO8KoJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/7/21 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:10:50 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> On 2/7/21 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 01:28:39 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display manger (for simplicity). I start X from: ~/.bash_profile exec startx -- vt1 but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied) >>> >>> Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you >>> must start X from .bash_profile, you need something like >>> >>> [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... >>> >>> to only start it when not using SSH. >> >> What do you suggest? >> I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting more >> unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over ssh and >> use x2go session. > > Why do you need to start X, doesn't x2go run its own X session? You are > trying to start X in an SSH session, which is what gives your error. The > line I suggested runs startx only if you are not logging in via SSH. No > display manager is involved. Maybe I wasn't clear. No, I don't start any X over ssh. When I'm directly in front of the PC and I have a log-in screen and type user ID + passwords I was under impression that "startxfce4" would run automatically when from .xinitrc ~/.xinitrc exec startxfce4 but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I have to type manually: startxfce4
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 12:10:50 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 2/7/21 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 01:28:39 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > >> I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display manger > >> (for simplicity). I start X from: > >> > >> ~/.bash_profile > >> exec startx -- vt1 > >> > >> but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: > >> > >> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" > >> (EE) > >> Fatal server error: > >> (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission > >> denied) > > > > Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you > > must start X from .bash_profile, you need something like > > > > [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... > > > > to only start it when not using SSH. > > What do you suggest? > I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting more > unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over ssh and > use x2go session. Why do you need to start X, doesn't x2go run its own X session? You are trying to start X in an SSH session, which is what gives your error. The line I suggested runs startx only if you are not logging in via SSH. No display manager is involved. -- Neil Bothwick If you got the words it does not mean you got the knowledge. pgpZy15vtCjES.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On 2/7/21 4:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 01:28:39 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display manger >> (for simplicity). I start X from: >> >> ~/.bash_profile >> exec startx -- vt1 >> >> but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: >> >> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" >> (EE) >> Fatal server error: >> (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied) >> > > Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you must > start X from .bash_profile, you need something like > > [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... > > to only start it when not using SSH. What do you suggest? I was planning to get away from "slim" as I think it is getting more unstable; I just need a simple system to start X, log-in over ssh and use x2go session. I removed startx from .bash_profile and put in: ~/.xinitrc "exec startxfce4" and I was under impression that xfce4 will start automatically when I log-in but instead I get a user command prompt and have to type: startxfce4 But now ssh login works and x2go-session works as well. So why isn't startxfce4 starts automatically, what am I missing?
Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 01:28:39 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display manger > (for simplicity). I start X from: > > ~/.bash_profile > exec startx -- vt1 > > but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: > > (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" > (EE) > Fatal server error: > (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied) > Of course you are, because you are still trying to start X. If you must start X from .bash_profile, you need something like [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] && startx ... to only start it when not using SSH. -- Neil Bothwick Mac screen message: "Like, dude, something went wrong." pgpvlLndERK8K.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
I disable "slim" login manager and try not to use any display manger (for simplicity). I start X from: ~/.bash_profile exec startx -- vt1 but now when I try to ssh as user, I get: (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)
