RE: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-26 Thread Marcel Romijn
 

 -Original Message-
 From: A. Khattri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2005 5:48
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1
 
 On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Marcel Romijn wrote:
 
  Yes, I used everything as default as possible.
  I used 'genkernel' to build my kernel with the default 
 configuration.
 
 Many people have problems when uysing genkernel to build 
 their kernels, so
 I will repeat my earlier advice: build the kernel by hand without
 genkernel.

...and so I did. Well, almost. I used genkernel --menuconfig --no-clean
all

In the config, I disabled framebuffer support and Gentoo now nicely
boots :-)

Thanks all for your replies!!!

Next stop: Java and sound (should be plenty of howto's for them)

Marcel Romijn

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-23 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Marcel Romijn wrote:

 vesafb: VBE version: 3.0
 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:8846
 vesafb: pmi: set display start = c00c8897, set palette = c00c88f7
 vesafb: pmi: ports = b4c3 b503 d403 d503 cc03 d703 d803 d903 ff03
 vesafb: hardware supports DDC2 transfers
 vesafb: monitor limits: vf = 200 Hz, hf = 133 kz, clk = 350 MHz
 vesafb: scrolling: redraw
 (nothing more)

Im assuming you removed any references to frame-buffers in grub.conf after
building a new kernel without framebuffer support?

Also, did you use genkernel to build your kernel?

You might want to try building the kernel by hand instead.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-23 Thread Marcel Romijn
 

 -Original Message-
 From: A. Khattri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2005 16:08
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1
 
 On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Marcel Romijn wrote:
 
  vesafb: VBE version: 3.0
  vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:8846
  vesafb: pmi: set display start = c00c8897, set palette = c00c88f7
  vesafb: pmi: ports = b4c3 b503 d403 d503 cc03 d703 d803 d903 ff03
  vesafb: hardware supports DDC2 transfers
  vesafb: monitor limits: vf = 200 Hz, hf = 133 kz, clk = 350 MHz
  vesafb: scrolling: redraw
  (nothing more)
 
 Im assuming you removed any references to frame-buffers in 
 grub.conf after
 building a new kernel without framebuffer support?
 
 Also, did you use genkernel to build your kernel?

Yes, I used everything as default as possible.
I used 'genkernel' to build my kernel with the default configuration.

I assumed that even though the kernel has framebuffer support built in,
it won't use it if it is not configured as kernel parameter in
grub.conf.
Maybe that was a wrong assumption?

I used to initially have video=vesafb-tng:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED] in
the kernel parameters.
However, I removed it when the boot process stalled after vesafb:
scrolling: redraw

So it looks like I could go two ways:
- Configure the framebuffer properly in grub.conf.
- Build a new kernel with framebuffer disabled.

I would prefer the first option...

 You might want to try building the kernel by hand instead.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-23 Thread Holly Bostick
Marcel Romijn schreef:
  
 
 I assumed that even though the kernel has framebuffer support built in,
 it won't use it if it is not configured as kernel parameter in
 grub.conf.
 Maybe that was a wrong assumption?

Yes, it was. The settings in grub.conf are supposed to override the
kernel settings. But if the framebuffer is set in the kernel, naturally
the kernel is going to start the framebuffer. It is, after all, the
kernel, and the kernel is king of the hill.

If you don't want a framebuffer, remove framebuffer support from your
kernel config.

Unless there's a setting in grub.conf to disable the
previously-initialized framebuffer. If there was, you could use that,
but I don't even know if such a setting exists, and seems like extra
work in any case (enabling the framebuffer just to disable it with an
override that may or may not work).

Hope this helps,
Holly
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RE: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-23 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 August 2005 16:19
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1
 
 
 Marcel Romijn schreef:
   
  
  I assumed that even though the kernel has framebuffer 
 support built in,
  it won't use it if it is not configured as kernel parameter in
  grub.conf.
  Maybe that was a wrong assumption?
 
 Yes, it was. The settings in grub.conf are supposed to override the
 kernel settings. But if the framebuffer is set in the kernel, 
 naturally
 the kernel is going to start the framebuffer. It is, after all, the
 kernel, and the kernel is king of the hill.
 
 If you don't want a framebuffer, remove framebuffer support from your
 kernel config.
 
 Unless there's a setting in grub.conf to disable the
 previously-initialized framebuffer. If there was, you could use that,
 but I don't even know if such a setting exists, and seems like extra
 work in any case (enabling the framebuffer just to disable it with an
 override that may or may not work).

Perhaps adding -nofb to the kernel will help?

Also, why did you change your [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - did you
change your monitor?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-23 Thread Marcel Romijn



 From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tue 8/23/2005 5:18 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org 
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1
 
 Marcel Romijn schreef:
  
 
  I assumed that even though the kernel has framebuffer support built in,
  it won't use it if it is not configured as kernel parameter in
  grub.conf.
  Maybe that was a wrong assumption?

 Yes, it was. The settings in grub.conf are supposed to override the
 kernel settings. But if the framebuffer is set in the kernel, naturally
 the kernel is going to start the framebuffer. It is, after all, the
 kernel, and the kernel is king of the hill.
 
 If you don't want a framebuffer, remove framebuffer support from your
 kernel config.

Hmmm..., I just followed the installation handbook. Plain, unmodified kernel 
configuration, which has framebuffer support enabled.
At the chapter of configuring grub, it mentiones that using the framebuffer was 
optional.
quote
If you have configured your kernel with framebuffer support (or you used 
genkernel's default kernel configuration), you can activate it by adding a vga 
and/or a video statement to your bootloader configuration file.
/quote

I tried some kernel parameters in grub.conf:

video=vesafb-tng:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Still stalls.

video=vesafb-tng:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because I read in a mailing list about vesafb not being able to switch refresh 
rates (might have been an old mailing list)
Still stalls.

video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removed the mtrr and ywarp in case they were not supported.
Still stalls.

video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case 'vesafb-tng' is not supported but 'vesafb' is.
Still stalls, but messes up the remaining text on the screen.

In the mean time, I have done the same install in VMware.
That install boots (succesfully!) with the video=vesafb-tng:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] setting!! (Although in 640x480, but that's caused by VMware).

So my conclusion is that there is something with my hardware configuration.
I'm using a VIA Epia ME6000 Mini ITX board.

I had Gentoo 2005.0 running on this board, so maybe something changed in this 
area between 2005.0 and 2005.1?

When I boot this board with the Gentoo 2005.1 LiveCD, it seems to use the 
framebuffer.
The isolinux.cfg mentions vga=791, but that doesn't seem to solve my problem 
as well.

 
 Unless there's a setting in grub.conf to disable the
 previously-initialized framebuffer. If there was, you could use that,
 but I don't even know if such a setting exists, and seems like extra
 work in any case (enabling the framebuffer just to disable it with an
 override that may or may not work).

-nofb , as suggested by Michael Kintzios, did not help.

 
 Hope this helps,
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Thanks for the help so far...

Marcel Romijn


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RE: [gentoo-user] Boot stalls after install of 2005.1

2005-08-23 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Marcel Romijn wrote:

 Yes, I used everything as default as possible.
 I used 'genkernel' to build my kernel with the default configuration.

Many people have problems when uysing genkernel to build their kernels, so
I will repeat my earlier advice: build the kernel by hand without
genkernel.


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