Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:37:33 Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 December 2010 12:39:27 Dale wrote:
  Pintér Tibor wrote:
  how about just checking the bloody Xorg logs to see what could have
  gone wrong? (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
  
  That's where the errors came from that I posted in my first post.  Here
  is the results of the latest test.  I shut down the rig and unplugged
  the rig and monitor.  Glad to see the monitor switched back to English
  too.  It was Chinese or something.  Anyway.  Before the shutdown, I
  rebuilt the kernel, re-emerged the nvidia drivers and did a manual
  switch on opengl to nvidia.  I let the rig sit there unplugged for about
  30 minutes.  I then booted it up.  BIOS came up, I saw the services
  scroll up then it switched to vt7 and gave me a blinking cursor.  It
  just sat there.
  
  I'm attaching both the new just tried xorg.conf and the xorg.log file.
  No grep or anything this time.
  
  Let me know if you see anything fishy or that needs changing.
  
  Thanks.
  
  Dale
  
  :-)  :-)
  
  Ok,
  
  check your kernel config.
  
  The following error into google gave me a hint,
  [  2082.101] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to obtain a shared memory identifier:
  Function not
  [  2082.101] (EE) NVIDIA(0): implemented
  
  
  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118109
  
  This one says:
  Try enabling CONFIG_SYSVIPC.
  
  --
  Joost
 
 You da man !!!  That was it.  Yeppie !!!  I got my nice new monitor
 back.  I bet this was what was wrong with the other monitor too.  I'm
 happy so I'm not going to try it.
 
 Whew.  I was about ready to try the ATI card too.  Yuck !!  lol
 
 THANKS MUCH !!
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)

Am glad you got it working. Enjoy the new machine :)

--
Joost



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Dale

J. Roeleveld wrote:

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:37:33 Dale wrote:
   

J. Roeleveld wrote:
 

Ok,

check your kernel config.

The following error into google gave me a hint,
[  2082.101] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to obtain a shared memory identifier:
Function not
[  2082.101] (EE) NVIDIA(0): implemented


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118109

This one says:
Try enabling CONFIG_SYSVIPC.

--
Joost
   

You da man !!!  That was it.  Yeppie !!!  I got my nice new monitor
back.  I bet this was what was wrong with the other monitor too.  I'm
happy so I'm not going to try it.

Whew.  I was about ready to try the ATI card too.  Yuck !!  lol

THANKS MUCH !!

Dale

:-)  :-)
 

Am glad you got it working. Enjoy the new machine :)

--
Joost

   


I went back and looked at the nvidia driver guide on gentoo.org.  There 
is no mention of nvidia needing that.  Should I tell the doc team so 
they can mention that for others or is my machine a little unique?   
Since someone else ran into it on the link you posted, it may be 
something that at least needs a mention even tho it is not nvidia specific.


Thoughts?

I like this thing.  The rig is super fast and the monitor is really 
nice.  These bad eyes can read this better.


Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 08:26:11 Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:37:33 Dale wrote:
  J. Roeleveld wrote:

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  Am glad you got it working. Enjoy the new machine :)
  
  --
  Joost
 
 I went back and looked at the nvidia driver guide on gentoo.org.  There
 is no mention of nvidia needing that.  Should I tell the doc team so
 they can mention that for others or is my machine a little unique?
 Since someone else ran into it on the link you posted, it may be
 something that at least needs a mention even tho it is not nvidia specific.
 
 Thoughts?

Might be usefull to have it in the docs, but I think, as it is something other 
software requires as well, it might be an idea to stick it in the install-
guide and in the ebuild-notes as well?

Am wondering, isn't it in the X11 documents on the site yet?

 I like this thing.  The rig is super fast and the monitor is really
 nice.  These bad eyes can read this better.

I've got the same CPU as you have, actually, just on an older mainboard.
When I bought mine, I did stock it full with the max memory the board can take 
(8 gig).

Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at 
/var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds things up 
even 
more ;)

--
Joost



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Dale

J. Roeleveld wrote:

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 08:26:11 Dale wrote:
   

J. Roeleveld wrote:
 

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:37:33 Dale wrote:
   

J. Roeleveld wrote:
 

snipped

   

Am glad you got it working. Enjoy the new machine :)

--
Joost
   

I went back and looked at the nvidia driver guide on gentoo.org.  There
is no mention of nvidia needing that.  Should I tell the doc team so
they can mention that for others or is my machine a little unique?
Since someone else ran into it on the link you posted, it may be
something that at least needs a mention even tho it is not nvidia specific.

Thoughts?
 

Might be usefull to have it in the docs, but I think, as it is something other
software requires as well, it might be an idea to stick it in the install-
guide and in the ebuild-notes as well?

Am wondering, isn't it in the X11 documents on the site yet?

   


I'll post it on gentoo-doc and see what they say.



I like this thing.  The rig is super fast and the monitor is really
nice.  These bad eyes can read this better.
 

I've got the same CPU as you have, actually, just on an older mainboard.
When I bought mine, I did stock it full with the max memory the board can take
(8 gig).

Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at
/var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds things up even
more ;)

--
Joost

   


Mine maxes out at 16Gbs.  I have a single 4Gb stick in it right now.  I 
plan to add a stick every few months until I get it full.  Then I will 
have plenty of room to put portage on the ramdisk like you.  It should 
be pretty fast then.  I rarely use more than 1Gb tho.  Even then, I have 
a lot of images open in Gimp or something to use that much.


Now that my rig is fixed, I'm going to take a nap.  I'm beat.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:33:03 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at
 /var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds
 things up even more ;)

The same size of tmpfs on /tmp also works even if you have only 4GB RAM, 
as I have. When it gets too full it just starts swapping.

Actually, now that I check again, I see I've raised the size to 16G:

$ grep 16G /etc/fstab
tmpfs   /tmp   tmpfs   nodev,nosuid,size=16G   0 0

$ grep swap /etc/fstab
/dev/sda3   none   swap   sw,pri=10  0 0
/dev/sdb3   none   swap   sw,pri=10  0 0
/dev/sda7   none   swap   sw,pri=10 0
/dev/sdb7   none   swap   sw,pri=10 0

/dev/sdX3 are 2GB and /dev/sdX7 are 20GB (probably far too much swap, 
but disks are cheap).

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Dale

Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:33:03 J. Roeleveld wrote:

   

Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at
/var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds
things up even more ;)
 

The same size of tmpfs on /tmp also works even if you have only 4GB RAM,
as I have. When it gets too full it just starts swapping.

Actually, now that I check again, I see I've raised the size to 16G:

$ grep 16G /etc/fstab
tmpfs   /tmp   tmpfs   nodev,nosuid,size=16G   0 0

$ grep swap /etc/fstab
/dev/sda3   none   swap   sw,pri=10  0 0
/dev/sdb3   none   swap   sw,pri=10  0 0
/dev/sda7   none   swap   sw,pri=10 0
/dev/sdb7   none   swap   sw,pri=10 0

/dev/sdX3 are 2GB and /dev/sdX7 are 20GB (probably far too much swap,
but disks are cheap).

   


Interesting.  I didn't know it would go to swap when it started getting 
full.


Considering a emerge -e world takes about 3 days on my old rig and only 
takes about 10 hours on my new one, I already got a pretty good 
increase.  We are always looking for more tho ain't we?  lol


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Peter Humphrey
pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:33:03 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at
 /var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds
 things up even more ;)

 The same size of tmpfs on /tmp also works even if you have only 4GB RAM,
 as I have. When it gets too full it just starts swapping.

In my experience if it starts swapping, that is much slower than just
using disk for /tmp in the first place. YMMV :)



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Dale

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Peter Humphrey
pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org  wrote:
   

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:33:03 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 

Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at
/var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds
things up even more ;)
   

The same size of tmpfs on /tmp also works even if you have only 4GB RAM,
as I have. When it gets too full it just starts swapping.
 

In my experience if it starts swapping, that is much slower than just
using disk for /tmp in the first place. YMMV :)

   


My thought was that at least portage wouldn't stop the compile when it 
ran out of room.  I usually put /var on a separate partition and always 
forget that OOo needs some space.  I usually don't give it enough the 
first time around.  Doesn't OOo need about 4 or 5Gbs now?


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread Adam Carter



 I went back and looked at the nvidia driver guide on gentoo.org.  There is
 no mention of nvidia needing that.  Should I tell the doc team so they can
 mention that for others or is my machine a little unique?   Since someone
 else ran into it on the link you posted, it may be something that at least
 needs a mention even tho it is not nvidia specific.


Ideally it would be in the ebuild's kernel config checks. The Changelog
mentions it;
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers/ChangeLog?view=markup

But obviously its not in the ebuild you used.


Re: !! SOLVED !! Re: [gentoo-user] New monitor problems. sighs

2010-12-15 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 20:35:15 Dale wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Peter Humphrey
  
  pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org  wrote:
  On Wednesday 15 December 2010 13:33:03 J. Roeleveld wrote:
  Not sure how much memory you have, but a 6Gig ramdisk mounted at
  /var/tmp/portage is sufficient to compile openoffice. That speeds
  things up even more ;)
  
  The same size of tmpfs on /tmp also works even if you have only 4GB RAM,
  as I have. When it gets too full it just starts swapping.
  
  In my experience if it starts swapping, that is much slower than just
  using disk for /tmp in the first place. YMMV :)
 
 My thought was that at least portage wouldn't stop the compile when it
 ran out of room.  I usually put /var on a separate partition and always
 forget that OOo needs some space.  I usually don't give it enough the
 first time around.  Doesn't OOo need about 4 or 5Gbs now?
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)

Yes, provided you don't have debugging enabled for the resulting code.
Apparently, that doubles the required size.

--
Joost