Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 13:46, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Saturday 9 September 2006 22:12, Daniel Waeber wrote: Although she promised that when the NTFS drivers for Linux are developed adequately to allow her to work on her NTFS stored data from both OS, she will make an effort to migrate. Let's see . . . hey, that's now Have a look at the captive ntfs driver [1] They use the binary Windows drivers for ntfs and simulate the windows kenerl calls. Therefore it is totally save (or at least as save as the m$ driver ;)) I never tried it, becaues I have no ntfs partitions, but it sounds good and its already in the ports-tree. No need for captive anymore, ntfs-g3 is open source, is in portage and works fine. ? I've been using just normal ntfsprogs on my Kubuntu Desktop. That works just fine. It even scans the ntfs drive on boot to clean it (something that is really needed - whoever wrote the ntfs driver for windows needs to be slain with torture for the sloppy job he or she did!) It is a bit annoying to have to wait for it to load as it waits for the scan to finish. -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgpp8bhXJ3ky5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 20:03, Jerry McBride wrote: My son, all of thirteen years old, the master of all he surveys, the supreme keeper of all knowledge of the known and unknown universes, the pinultimate ruler of mankind... Has asked me to put Linux on his desktop computer... It seems he has become weary of maintaining/re-installed his beloved XP... Life is good. Cheers, Jerry P.S. the next to be converted beneath my humble roof is my wife... Stay tuned. From different statistics published in the web I have noticed a correlation between an increase in the uptake of Linux and: a) Major M$Windoze virus or trojan breakouts. b) Launch of new M$Windoze OS variants (e.g. Win98 -- Win2k, or Win2k -- WinXP). where (b) above appears to be more significant in forcing people to reconsider their options. Since I refuse point blank to pay for Vista, I'd like to see that my wife is going to do within the next couple of years, he, he! ;-) Although she promised that when the NTFS drivers for Linux are developed adequately to allow her to work on her NTFS stored data from both OS, she will make an effort to migrate. Let's see . . . -- Regards, Mick pgpy8sU2Q7ksI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Saturday 9 September 2006 22:12, Daniel Waeber wrote: Although she promised that when the NTFS drivers for Linux are developed adequately to allow her to work on her NTFS stored data from both OS, she will make an effort to migrate. Let's see . . . hey, that's now Have a look at the captive ntfs driver [1] They use the binary Windows drivers for ntfs and simulate the windows kenerl calls. Therefore it is totally save (or at least as save as the m$ driver ;)) I never tried it, becaues I have no ntfs partitions, but it sounds good and its already in the ports-tree. No need for captive anymore, ntfs-g3 is open source, is in portage and works fine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
Jerry McBride wrote: My son, all of thirteen years old, the master of all he surveys, the supreme keeper of all knowledge of the known and unknown universes, the pinultimate ruler of mankind... Has asked me to put Linux on his desktop computer... It seems he has become weary of maintaining/re-installed his beloved XP... Life is good. Cheers, Jerry P.S. the next to be converted beneath my humble roof is my wife... Stay tuned. Good time to learn programming! Fire up those engines! My wife does all her work on Gentoo - I started her off on the right foot. What you need that yucky NTFS stuff for? :-D Welcome aboard. -Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 21:46, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Saturday 9 September 2006 22:12, Daniel Waeber wrote: Although she promised that when the NTFS drivers for Linux are developed adequately to allow her to work on her NTFS stored data from both OS, she will make an effort to migrate. Let's see . . . hey, that's now Have a look at the captive ntfs driver [1] They use the binary Windows drivers for ntfs and simulate the windows kenerl calls. Therefore it is totally save (or at least as save as the m$ driver ;)) I never tried it, becaues I have no ntfs partitions, but it sounds good and its already in the ports-tree. No need for captive anymore, ntfs-g3 is open source, is in portage and works fine. Fantastic! I'll have a try tomorrow and then install on her machine. Thanks for the heads up! :) -- Regards, Mick pgpwZlO432v7x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:03:58 -0400 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son, all of thirteen years old, the master of all he surveys, the supreme keeper of all knowledge of the known and unknown universes, the pinultimate ruler of mankind... Has asked me to put Linux on his desktop computer... It seems he has become weary of maintaining/re-installed his beloved XP... Life is good. Cheers, Jerry P.S. the next to be converted beneath my humble roof is my wife... Stay tuned. There must be something in the air. My 10 year old son Miles and I have an ongoing friendly banter about the relative merits of windows and linux. He has windows software at school and games to play after all. Anyway last night he was reading a section in the latest APC magazine about the latest innovations in linux desktops, and comparing linux to vista. He suddenly asked if he could obtain SuSE 10.1. I said I think its on the cover DVD. He said Can I install it then?. Knowing that there was an unused 35G partition on the hard drive awaiting a linux install I said go for it. So I looked over his shoulder and made sure he didn't junk the windows partition. I advised him on the choice between kde and gnome, and assured that the other would still be available to install later. Other than that he did the whole thing. By the time he went to bed it was running and he'd been on the net using firefox and checked that runescape (online java game) worked. By the time I got up this morning he was setting up his RSS feeds in kontact and configuring various other bits. Pretty good I thought. Not sure whether it says something about Miles, or about SuSE's ease of installation (probably both). He has used linux before, and is pretty computer literate (gaining a High Distinction in an international exam, batting against kids 2 years older), but neither those exams nor school do much to prepare you for installing a different OS. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 21:21, Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:03:58 -0400 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son, all of thirteen years old, the master of all he surveys, the supreme keeper of all knowledge of the known and unknown universes, the pinultimate ruler of mankind... Has asked me to put Linux on his desktop computer... It seems he has become weary of maintaining/re-installed his beloved XP... Life is good. Cheers, Jerry P.S. the next to be converted beneath my humble roof is my wife... Stay tuned. There must be something in the air. My 10 year old son Miles and I have an ongoing friendly banter about the relative merits of windows and linux. He has windows software at school and games to play after all. Anyway last night he was reading a section in the latest APC magazine about the latest innovations in linux desktops, and comparing linux to vista. He suddenly asked if he could obtain SuSE 10.1. I said I think its on the cover DVD. He said Can I install it then?. Nice! Maybe there's hope for the X-generation anyways... XBOX-Generation... Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 20:21, Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 15:03:58 -0400 By the time he went to bed it was running and he'd been on the net using firefox and checked that runescape (online java game) worked. By the time I got up this morning he was setting up his RSS feeds in kontact and configuring various other bits. Heck yeah! If everyone knew about Kontact... I demo it and KStars every chance I get. Pretty good I thought. Not sure whether it says something about Miles, or about SuSE's ease of installation (probably both). He has used linux before, and is pretty computer literate (gaining a High Distinction in an international exam, batting against kids 2 years older), but neither those exams nor school do much to prepare you for installing a different OS. We've come a long way in the last 6 years. I think even further than the proceeding years. Suse 10.1 is really a landmark. I say that from my Gentoo installation, but they really did something right with that release. -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT The Real Darkside...
Daniel Waeber wrote: Have a look at the captive ntfs driver [1] Sucks. Try ntfs-3g: # emerge sys-fs/ntfs3g pgp2A3EnaWcvw.pgp Description: PGP signature
