Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't load GNOME as user [SOLVED!]

2005-06-01 Thread Holly Bostick
Holly Bostick schreef:
 Hi,
 
 I can't stand it anymore, so I thought I'd fish here for ideas.
 
 The long and the short of it is that I cannot load the GNOME desktop as
 a user (works fine as root).
 

After my partial success, I did the following

1) a revdep-rebuild

2) upgraded back up to GNOME 2.10 (re-uncommented my keywords and did an
emerge -uaDtv world)

and it's all working.

Thanks for all the help. I really missed GNOME a lot; the simplicity of
it is like a breath of fresh air after dealing with KDE for so long.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't load GNOME as user

2005-05-31 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Grosshans
Le mardi 31 mai 2005  19:58 +0200, Holly Bostick a crit :
 Hi,
 
 I can't stand it anymore, so I thought I'd fish here for ideas.
 
 The long and the short of it is that I cannot load the GNOME desktop as
 a user (works fine as root).
I had the same problem yesterday, after having played with beagle.

I emerged xfce, which mainly worked (xffm, the file manager, didn't
work)

It wasn't a config file problem since the problem also happened for new
virgin users.

I finally resigned to an ugly solution : the proverbial reboot, which
worked. I still don't know why...

Good luck !
Fred



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't load GNOME as user

2005-05-31 Thread Daniel da Veiga
I faced a problem like this few weeks ago, it was a permission
problem, some files and directories used by Gnome (at the user's home)
had wrong permissions, all I had to do were some recursive chown and
chgrp and it all worked fine, dunno if its your problem, but you
should check it.

On 5/31/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I can't stand it anymore, so I thought I'd fish here for ideas.
 
 The long and the short of it is that I cannot load the GNOME desktop as
 a user (works fine as root).
 
 The splash screen comes up, but only 2 icons show in the progress bar
 before the splash disappears-- Sessions, and Window manager, iirc.
 Already not good (no Nautilus, no Metacity, no gnome-panel...).
 
 Then the panel tries to come up, the panel backgrounds (currently set as
 the default top and bottom panels) display (empty), then disappear. This
 happens about 5 or 6 times (I suspect related to how many panel applets
 are attempting to load). No desktop appears, no panels load, right-click
 on the desktop produces no menu (since Nautilus isn't running,
 presumably) and since I don't know the GNOME shortcut key to open a Run
 Box, I pretty much have to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace out to GDM and load
 another WM.
 
 This happens with both the regular GNOME entry and the Failsafe GNOME entry.
 
 I have deleted ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, ~/.gnome, ~/.gnome2,
 ~/.gnome2_private, and ~/.gnome_private and allowed my login attempt to
 regenerate them (supposedly), but this had no effect. Since GNOME loads
 fine when root logs in, GNOME itself is presumably not broken, but
 rather the user is.
 
 What's left to delete and regenerate? Does anybody know what I might do
 to fix this (short of creating a new user, which I'm not going to do :) )?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Holly, hanging out in IceWM while KDE 3.4.1 compiles.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't load GNOME as user

2005-05-31 Thread Edward A Mihalow Jr

Holly Bostick wrote:

Hi,

I can't stand it anymore, so I thought I'd fish here for ideas.

The long and the short of it is that I cannot load the GNOME desktop as
a user (works fine as root).

The splash screen comes up, but only 2 icons show in the progress bar
before the splash disappears-- Sessions, and Window manager, iirc.
Already not good (no Nautilus, no Metacity, no gnome-panel...).

Then the panel tries to come up, the panel backgrounds (currently set as
the default top and bottom panels) display (empty), then disappear. This
happens about 5 or 6 times (I suspect related to how many panel applets
are attempting to load). No desktop appears, no panels load, right-click
on the desktop produces no menu (since Nautilus isn't running,
presumably) and since I don't know the GNOME shortcut key to open a Run
Box, I pretty much have to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace out to GDM and load
another WM.

This happens with both the regular GNOME entry and the Failsafe GNOME entry.

I have deleted ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, ~/.gnome, ~/.gnome2,
~/.gnome2_private, and ~/.gnome_private and allowed my login attempt to
regenerate them (supposedly), but this had no effect. Since GNOME loads
fine when root logs in, GNOME itself is presumably not broken, but
rather the user is.

What's left to delete and regenerate? Does anybody know what I might do
to fix this (short of creating a new user, which I'm not going to do :) )?

Thanks for any help,

Holly, hanging out in IceWM while KDE 3.4.1 compiles.

I had the same problem with GnomeLite and the only thing I could do was
create a new user. For some reason (unknown to me) Gnome did not like
what was in my /home/user file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Can't load GNOME as user

2005-05-31 Thread Holly Bostick
Chris Woods schreef:
 Holly Bostick wrote:
 
Hi,

I can't stand it anymore, so I thought I'd fish here for ideas.

The long and the short of it is that I cannot load the GNOME desktop as
a user (works fine as root).
 
 
 [...]
 
 I had this problem pretty persistently for a long time. I believe what finally
 fixed it was killing all gnome-session processes, with no X at all running,
 and then delete all gnome-related files and directories in $HOME - .gtk*
 .gnome* .metacity* .nautilus* Desktop* .gconf* etc - and then restart X by
 your usual means, and try logging in to gnome from there.
 
 HTH,
 Chris
 

All right, I'm making progress, of a sort. I am currently in GNOME, but
don't know if I'll make it through a logout/in.

Here's what I did:

1) created a new user (I know I said I wouldn't, but it looks like
Edward was right) and logged into GNOME as her;

2) changed a couple of things (more on this later) such as the screen
resolution and whatnot and logged out

3) logged in as my regular user under another DE, opened a file manager
as root and adjusted the permissions of the 'test' user's home folder so
I could get into it;

4) copied the test user's GNOME files to my regular user, overwriting
whatever was there (easy enough to identify as the user had no files to
speak of but what was installed by default).

When I logged out and back into GNOME, it started--- with a lot of
errors, but it started (mostly; Nautilus won't start, and stuff like the
volume control and the show desktop button had to be removed from
gconf). But like I said, it might not survive a logout, so I thought I'd
post this all now.

Here's the thing, though: it looks like at least some part of this was
caused by my unorthodox install (which is another reason I wouldn't
recommend this method or perform it ever again).

I know we don't like to mention 'that Gentoo-based distro' on this list,
but I could use some help in cleaning up its mess if anybody might have
a clue what happened.

Here's the symptoms:

When I created the new user and logged into GNOME, the desktop
resolution was Vida's 1024x768 instead of my normal 1280x1024;

The default wallpaper was the Vida wallpaper

Some gDesklets something was listed to start in the voluntary startup
section of the Session Manager (which I removed).

So obviously, I have retained some Vida default config file somewhere
(/etc/skel?), and you can be sure I don't want it. Even if it was
appropriate (which it ain't), it's presumably a GNOME 2.10 config, and I
downgraded to 2.8.3 when GNOME first broke, as I thought that might
help. Now I know what the problem probably was-- when converting to
Gentoo I clearly missed something out.

I hate to ask, and I'll hang my head in shame while the list derides me
(although the trouble and embarassment is really punishment enough), but
if anyone happens to know enough about what stupid Vida does to tell me
what I need to rm -rf --and what, if anything, I need to emerge to
replace it, I would be grateful.

Would a complete uninstall of all GNOME packages do it? Naturally, if
there's a better way, I'd love to hear it.

Thanks,
Holly
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