Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread JimD
I didn't like it that much.  I didn't see an option to thread the responses and 
I would
really like some type of simple killfile to be able to not show the trolls.

The best I have found so far is Newega.  However Newega is a closed source perl 
based
app and is missing some features I would like.  I would really like the app to 
be open
source so I can tweak it to fit my needs.  I want kill file support.  The only 
reason I
am not happy with thunderbird is because is stinks for killfile support for 
usenet.

Thanks,

Jim
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On Wed, April 5, 2006 1:32 pm, Anno v. Hiemburg wrote:
 JimD wrote:


 Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?

 http://groups.google.com


 Anno.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 20:33, JimD wrote:
 I didn't like it that much.  I didn't see an option to thread the
 responses and I would really like some type of simple killfile to be
 able to not show the trolls.

 The best I have found so far is Newega.  However Newega is a closed
 source perl based app and is missing some features I would like.  I
 would really like the app to be open source so I can tweak it to fit
 my needs.  I want kill file support.  The only reason I am not happy
 with thunderbird is because is stinks for killfile support for usenet.


Don't know if it does what you want, but I remember using newsportal
(http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal) sometimes in the past. It even 
integrates nicely with squirrelmail.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread Alexander Skwar

Anno v. Hiemburg wrote:

JimD wrote:


Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?


http://groups.google.com


He was talking about a good one... No, I don't know of
any.

Reg. Google Groups, it should be noted that a lot of people
killfile everything that's sent from Google Groups, as a lot
of spam originates from there and also because Google Groups
users quite often don't know how to behave in newsgroups.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread JimD
On Wed, April 5, 2006 3:00 pm, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 April 2006 20:33, JimD wrote:

 Don't know if it does what you want, but I remember using newsportal
 (http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal) sometimes in the past. It even
 integrates nicely with squirrelmail. --
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That looks pretty nice.  I will try it out :)

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread JimD
On Wed, April 5, 2006 2:45 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Anno v. Hiemburg wrote:

 JimD wrote:


 Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?


 http://groups.google.com


 He was talking about a good one... No, I don't know of
 any.

 Reg. Google Groups, it should be noted that a lot of people
 killfile everything that's sent from Google Groups, as a lot of spam 
 originates from
 there and also because Google Groups users quite often don't know how to 
 behave in
 newsgroups.

 Alexander Skwar

I will try the one the Etaoin posted.  If that doesn't do it, I can VNC in to
home from work or I could try to see how fast X11 forwarding would be.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:06, JimD wrote:
 If that doesn't do it, I can VNC in 
 to home from work or I could try to see how fast X11 forwarding would be.

And what would you use then which you cannot run locally? I mean if the only 
issue is that port 119 is closed then it seems you can do what I do. Create a 
ton of ssh tunnels and point the news/mail/whatever client towards localhost 
(and whatever port you forwarded it to). I currently have 8 ssh tunnels 
running to access external mail, news and irc servers locally. I even created 
an init script for this... ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread JimD
On Wed, April 5, 2006 7:42 pm, Bo Andresen wrote:
 On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:06, JimD wrote:

 If that doesn't do it, I can VNC in
 to home from work or I could try to see how fast X11 forwarding would be.

 And what would you use then which you cannot run locally? I mean if the only
 issue is that port 119 is closed then it seems you can do what I do. Create a 
 ton
 of ssh tunnels and point the news/mail/whatever client towards localhost (and
 whatever port you forwarded it to). I currently have 8 ssh tunnels running to
 access external mail, news and irc servers locally. I even created an init 
 script
 for this... ;)

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From work I seem to only be able to get to thes ports:

80
443
21
8080

I use 80 for a web server, 443 is what I connect to ssh over, 21 I have been 
doing VNC.

I could never figure out how to get ssh tunneling working.  So I just have my 
firewall
forward port 443- 22, 21-5900, 8080-119...

The with just forwarding the ports is that I don't get any compression.

For example, what would be the ssh command to connect from WORK to HOME and 
tunnel port
5900 from HOME to WORK so that I can run vnc at WORK to localhost:: and 
really be
connecting to HOME.  ssh is listening on port 443 on HOME.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 06 April 2006 02:27, JimD wrote:
 From work I seem to only be able to get to thes ports:
[SNIP]
 443 is what I connect to ssh over
[SNIP]
 I could never figure out how to get ssh tunneling working.  So I just have
 my firewall forward port 443- 22, 21-5900, 8080-119...

 The with just forwarding the ports is that I don't get any compression.

 For example, what would be the ssh command to connect from WORK to HOME and
 tunnel port 5900 from HOME to WORK so that I can run vnc at WORK to
 localhost:: and really be connecting to HOME.  ssh is listening on port
 443 on HOME.

If you can connect to home with a command similar to:

# ssh -p 443 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And you wish to connect to newsserver.com at port 119 (news) and 
mailserver.com at port 143 (imap) which can be reached from home then you can 
create tunnels to those by:

# ssh -p 443 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 119:newsserver.com:119 -L 
143:mailserver.com:143

After that you just direct your mail and news clients towards localhost as the 
servername. One way of doing that is to add:

127.0.0.1   newsserver.com  mailserver.com

to your /etc/hosts. You can add as many tunnels as you want to the same ssh 
connection by just specifying more -L localport:servername_or_ip:port to 
the ssh command.

Read man ssh for more info on ssh local port forwarding.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread JimD
On Wed, April 5, 2006 8:50 pm, Bo Andresen wrote:
 On Thursday 06 April 2006 02:27, JimD wrote:

 If you can connect to home with a command similar to:


 # ssh -p 443 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yup, the above works fine from work.

 And you wish to connect to newsserver.com at port 119 (news) and
 mailserver.com at port 143 (imap) which can be reached from home then you can
 create tunnels to those by:

 # ssh -p 443 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 119:newsserver.com:119 -L 
 143:mailserver.com:143

Will ssh tunnel everything over the one connection?

newsserver.com and mailserver.com are both really localhost to my HOME machine 
since I
am running those services.

So I take it the command below will connect from WORK to HOME and let me get to 
HOME's
ports 119 and 143 from WORK's port 119 and 143?

ssh -p 443 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 119:localhost:119 -L 143:localhost:143

 After that you just direct your mail and news clients towards localhost as the
 servername. One way of doing that is to add:

I always understood this part.  I just couldn't get the -L stuff down.

 Read man ssh for more info on ssh local port forwarding.

Will do.

 Bo Andresen

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

2006-04-05 Thread JimD
- Original Message - 
From: JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail



Will ssh tunnel everything over the one connection?


ssh is really great.  I ran
ssh -C -p 443 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 5900:localhost:5900 \
 -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 \
 -L 119:news-server.cfl.rr.com:119

I now can get compressed VNC, IMAP, SMTP and NNTP from work.

Thanks for the help.

Sorry for posting with OE.  I am VPNed into work to test everything out.

Jim
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