Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness, solved!
I checked all of the following and found them matching perfectly, in the end it was a simple change of the intel-agp module's name that had my system in fits. Thanks for all of your help everyone. Now on to setting up the new sound system... Check /etc/udev/50-udev.rules. You should have a line that says: KERNEL=agpgart, NAME=misc/%k, SYMLINK=%k A quick explanation of how udev works may help you find the real problem here: For drivers compiled into the kernel, their device nodes get created either: 1. permanently by creating the device nodes manually and using the tarball feature in /etc/conf.d/rc 2. When udevstart is executed by /sbin/rc during startup For modules, the device nodes are created when the kernel runs /sbin/udevsend when the module is loaded. You *must* have hotplug support in the kernel for this though. You can cause udev to generate debug messages by setting udev_log = 7 in /etc/udev/udev.conf. The debug output goes to /var/log/messages. -genkernel --udev --menuconfig all will not show me an option that refers to AGP anything, is this a bus? Well, in the normal kernel configuration, It is under Device drivers-Character devices-/dev/apgart. You need both AGPGART and the chipset specific driver. For example, my config has: carcharias linux # grep AGP /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_AGP=y # CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD64 is not set CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y # CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_VIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_EFFICEON is not set -I tried compiling the kernel directly once and got a kernel panic, I don't remember if AGP was mentioned in that case. Most common cause of this is not compiling the required drivers for your root filesystem (disk and filesystem drivers) into your kernel. Such drivers cannot be modules without a great deal of effort. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
Jerry McBride schreef: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 06:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to Migrate to 2.6. But when I reboot into my new genkerneled system, I cannot use X.org anymore, it complains about agpgart not working. Even If I modprobe the kernel mod or even compile it in directly it rejects it. Any Ideas on how to proceed? Creighton Without seeing the xorg logfile from /var/logs... I'd say you ahve to re-emerge xorg or at the least run revdep-rebuild -p to see whta has to get upgraded also. I question whether that would work, without knowing what hardware (motherboard, videocard) is involved, especially when I hear the word 'genkernel'. To me, errors in agpgart first suggest that either support for your motherboard's agp chipset is not compiled into the kernel, or --if compiled as a module, is not loaded; and secondly, the outside chance that-- if using an ATI card-- the InternalAGPGART setting is wrong; set to YES when it should be set to NO because you have to use your motherboard's kernel module (but this does not usually result in X.org not starting, just complaints in the logs), or set to NO when it should be set to YES because you don't use your motherboard's kernel support, so no agpgart is being loaded at all (which I would imagine would prevent X from starting). What does dmesg or /var/log/messages say about agpgart? Did it try to load and fail? What does lsmod say is loaded? If nothing, can you modprobe your agpgart module? What is your mobo and video card? If an ATI or nVidia video card, did you re-emerge the drivers after compiling the kernel? Basically, I'd just like to confirm that genkernel didn't drop the ball. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
these are my autoload modules, commented are ones that some HOWTO pointed to but never worked. /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 agpgart #via-agp #ati-agp fglrx #radeon rtc snd-via82xx r8169 #drm amd64-agp On Wednesday 06 July 2005 12:55, Holly Bostick wrote: Jerry McBride schreef: On Tuesday 05 July 2005 06:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to Migrate to 2.6. But when I reboot into my new genkerneled system, I cannot use X.org anymore, it complains about agpgart not working. Even If I modprobe the kernel mod or even compile it in directly it rejects it. Any Ideas on how to proceed? Creighton Without seeing the xorg logfile from /var/logs... I'd say you ahve to re-emerge xorg or at the least run revdep-rebuild -p to see whta has to get upgraded also. I question whether that would work, without knowing what hardware (motherboard, videocard) is involved, especially when I hear the word 'genkernel'. To me, errors in agpgart first suggest that either support for your motherboard's agp chipset is not compiled into the kernel, or --if compiled as a module, is not loaded; and secondly, the outside chance that-- if using an ATI card-- the InternalAGPGART setting is wrong; set to YES when it should be set to NO because you have to use your motherboard's kernel module (but this does not usually result in X.org not starting, just complaints in the logs), or set to NO when it should be set to YES because you don't use your motherboard's kernel support, so no agpgart is being loaded at all (which I would imagine would prevent X from starting). What does dmesg or /var/log/messages say about agpgart? Did it try to load and fail? What does lsmod say is loaded? If nothing, can you modprobe your agpgart module? What is your mobo and video card? If an ATI or nVidia video card, did you re-emerge the drivers after compiling the kernel? Basically, I'd just like to confirm that genkernel didn't drop the ball. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
Okay, let's start over. I have only posted the first post of this thread, but I would say that all off the noise may imply that I am not alone here. -I have a working setup in 2.4, less so now than before, but xorg does still work. -in 2.6, xorg will break and complain that /dev/agpgart does not exist. -/dev/agpgart, in fact, does not exist when using Udev in 2.6, yet it does exist when I reboot into 2.4 -modprobe agpgart will result in an error -genkernel --udev --menuconfig all will not show me an option that refers to AGP anything, is this a bus? -I run this in an old HP Pavilion, 500 Mhertz Celeron, 128 meg ram with i810 onboard chipsets, Xorg originally autodetected everything including the resolution of my Komodo monitor. I didn't know it went that high. -I tried compiling the kernel directly once and got a kernel panic, I don't remember if AGP was mentioned in that case. Creighton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Okay, let's start over. I have only posted the first post of this thread, but I would say that all off the noise may imply that I am not alone here. -I have a working setup in 2.4, less so now than before, but xorg does still work. -in 2.6, xorg will break and complain that /dev/agpgart does not exist. -/dev/agpgart, in fact, does not exist when using Udev in 2.6, yet it does exist when I reboot into 2.4 Yes, but you see, my point is that-- as far as I know-- udev doesn't create the agpgart device; the loading of the kernel module does that. In the same way that the kernel modules are responsible for creating all the motherboard resources that load at boot before udev comes into the picture. So that's why I'm feeling that the problem is with your kernel, not udev per se. Although maybe coldplug wouldn't hurt to have in rc-update. -modprobe agpgart will result in an error What is the error? Module doesn't exist? Module is already loaded? Symbol errors? -genkernel --udev --menuconfig all will not show me an option that refers to AGP anything, is this a bus? Yes, it's a speeded-up, dedicated form of the PCI bus. The kernel configuration for it is Device Drivers== Character devices. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
-modprobe agpgart will result in an error What is the error? Module doesn't exist? Module is already loaded? Symbol errors? module not found -genkernel --udev --menuconfig all will not show me an option that refers to AGP anything, is this a bus? Yes, it's a speeded-up, dedicated form of the PCI bus. The kernel configuration for it is Device Drivers== Character devices. I see it, thanks. M and recompile should fix my issues. HTH, Holly Thanks again, Holly. Creighton. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, let's start over. I have only posted the first post of this thread, but I would say that all off the noise may imply that I am not alone here. -I have a working setup in 2.4, less so now than before, but xorg does still work. -in 2.6, xorg will break and complain that /dev/agpgart does not exist. Check /etc/udev/50-udev.rules. You should have a line that says: KERNEL=agpgart, NAME=misc/%k, SYMLINK=%k A quick explanation of how udev works may help you find the real problem here: For drivers compiled into the kernel, their device nodes get created either: 1. permanently by creating the device nodes manually and using the tarball feature in /etc/conf.d/rc 2. When udevstart is executed by /sbin/rc during startup For modules, the device nodes are created when the kernel runs /sbin/udevsend when the module is loaded. You *must* have hotplug support in the kernel for this though. You can cause udev to generate debug messages by setting udev_log = 7 in /etc/udev/udev.conf. The debug output goes to /var/log/messages. -genkernel --udev --menuconfig all will not show me an option that refers to AGP anything, is this a bus? Well, in the normal kernel configuration, It is under Device drivers-Character devices-/dev/apgart. You need both AGPGART and the chipset specific driver. For example, my config has: carcharias linux # grep AGP /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_AGP=y # CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_ATI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD64 is not set CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y # CONFIG_AGP_NVIDIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_VIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_EFFICEON is not set -I tried compiling the kernel directly once and got a kernel panic, I don't remember if AGP was mentioned in that case. Most common cause of this is not compiling the required drivers for your root filesystem (disk and filesystem drivers) into your kernel. Such drivers cannot be modules without a great deal of effort. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.4 - 2.6 wierdness
On Tuesday 05 July 2005 06:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to Migrate to 2.6. But when I reboot into my new genkerneled system, I cannot use X.org anymore, it complains about agpgart not working. Even If I modprobe the kernel mod or even compile it in directly it rejects it. Any Ideas on how to proceed? Creighton Without seeing the xorg logfile from /var/logs... I'd say you ahve to re-emerge xorg or at the least run revdep-rebuild -p to see whta has to get upgraded also. ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 7:26pm up 6 days, 8 min, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.09 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
