Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
Am 29.01.2011 17:07, schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2011 13:29:53 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm thinking about building a new media PC and wanted to use an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 mainboard (link: [1]). Any objections to this? I wouldn't buy an Asus board at the moment, thanks to their crappyness. I bought a GA-880GA-UD3H 4 weeks ago. It works. rtl8111d/e lan chip usb3 lots of pcie slots. note: you don't have to care about the realtek suffices. 8111d/e/whatever... they just work That mobo is a nice one. Lots of good stuff. If I recall correctly it has the latest SATA too. The 6Gbs speed that is. Mine has 3Gbs. I read somewhere that the current line up of Gigabyte mobos are the highest rated. It used to be Abit and ASUS but we all know how these things change. There was another one that was highly rated a good long while back, especially with Linux users, but I can't recall the brand now. ASRock or something? Maybe? I looked into ASUS before my build and switched to Gigabyte after some research. About the only thing I was settled on when I started was a Nvidia based video card. The rest was open to changes. I do wish I had got the 6 core CPU now tho. That is my only regret. Still happy tho. This new rig is easily 7 or 8 times faster all the way around. Thanks for all the input, Dale and Volker! I think I settle for a GA-880GMA-UD2H ([1]). Basically, it's the little brother of what Volker proposed. I need a Micro-ATX board. Originally, I ruled out all Asrock and Gigabyte boards because because they usually come with 2 PCI slots, 1 PCIe x16 and 1 PCIe x1. I rather want another PCIe 1x instead of the second PCI slot. Asus, Foxconn and MSI offer that. This particular Gigabyte board, however, offers a second PCIe 4x (in a physical x16 slot). I guess that's even better. Although the arrangement on the board will make it dificult to use two larger extension cards in both big PCIe slots. Regards, Florian Philipp [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128445Tpk=GA-880GMA-UD2H signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
Florian Philipp wrote: Thanks for all the input, Dale and Volker! I think I settle for a GA-880GMA-UD2H ([1]). Basically, it's the little brother of what Volker proposed. I need a Micro-ATX board. Originally, I ruled out all Asrock and Gigabyte boards because because they usually come with 2 PCI slots, 1 PCIe x16 and 1 PCIe x1. I rather want another PCIe 1x instead of the second PCI slot. Asus, Foxconn and MSI offer that. This particular Gigabyte board, however, offers a second PCIe 4x (in a physical x16 slot). I guess that's even better. Although the arrangement on the board will make it dificult to use two larger extension cards in both big PCIe slots. Regards, Florian Philipp [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128445Tpk=GA-880GMA-UD2H When you get ready to build your kernel, check out this link. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Giga-byte/GA-880GMA-UD2H+rev2.0 That should tell you what drivers it needs and save you some headaches trying to figure them out. Nice mobo too. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
On Sunday 30 January 2011 09:58:21 Dale wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: Thanks for all the input, Dale and Volker! I think I settle for a GA-880GMA-UD2H ([1]). Basically, it's the little brother of what Volker proposed. I need a Micro-ATX board. Originally, I ruled out all Asrock and Gigabyte boards because because they usually come with 2 PCI slots, 1 PCIe x16 and 1 PCIe x1. I rather want another PCIe 1x instead of the second PCI slot. Asus, Foxconn and MSI offer that. This particular Gigabyte board, however, offers a second PCIe 4x (in a physical x16 slot). I guess that's even better. Although the arrangement on the board will make it dificult to use two larger extension cards in both big PCIe slots. Regards, Florian Philipp [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128445Tpk=GA-8 80GMA-UD2H When you get ready to build your kernel, check out this link. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Giga-byte/GA-880GMA-UD2H+rev2.0 That should tell you what drivers it needs and save you some headaches trying to figure them out. Nice mobo too. ;-) Dale :-) :-) that side is - of course - wrong. The jmicron controller works fine with the ahci driver. 05:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard Kernel driver in use: ahci
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2011 13:29:53 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm thinking about building a new media PC and wanted to use an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 mainboard (link: [1]). Any objections to this? I wouldn't buy an Asus board at the moment, thanks to their crappyness. I bought a GA-880GA-UD3H 4 weeks ago. It works. rtl8111d/e lan chip usb3 lots of pcie slots. note: you don't have to care about the realtek suffices. 8111d/e/whatever... they just work Nice looking MB, good price. Only caveat I see is the same problem I had with an Intel MB where 90 degree SATA outputs didn't work well for me in a tight HTPC case I did recently. In a standard case no problems. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2011 09:58:21 Dale wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: When you get ready to build your kernel, check out this link. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Giga-byte/GA-880GMA-UD2H+rev2.0 That should tell you what drivers it needs and save you some headaches trying to figure them out. Nice mobo too. ;-) Dale :-) :-) that side is - of course - wrong. The jmicron controller works fine with the ahci driver. 05:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard Kernel driver in use: ahci If you have the mobo and can give the updated info, you can send it to them so that it can be updated. I sent them the info on mine too. After all, things change and someone has to send those changes in. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
On Sunday 30 January 2011 10:24:17 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2011 13:29:53 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm thinking about building a new media PC and wanted to use an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 mainboard (link: [1]). Any objections to this? I wouldn't buy an Asus board at the moment, thanks to their crappyness. I bought a GA-880GA-UD3H 4 weeks ago. It works. rtl8111d/e lan chip usb3 lots of pcie slots. note: you don't have to care about the realtek suffices. 8111d/e/whatever... they just work Nice looking MB, good price. Only caveat I see is the same problem I had with an Intel MB where 90 degree SATA outputs didn't work well for me in a tight HTPC case I did recently. In a standard case no problems. - Mark my case is 'plus' size so no problems there ;) After the Asus disaster I needed a board that: has lots of sata ports has lots of usb has at least 2 pci ports is f*cking stable. Gigabyte delivered. It might be slower - I can't feel or see a difference but it is stable. Stability trumps speed. Every time.
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm thinking about building a new media PC and wanted to use an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 mainboard (link: [1]). Any objections to this? I'm a bit worried about the LAN chipset Realtek 8111E (which seems to be also known as RTL-8168E). This chipset seems to be extremely common on AM3 boards but I've found mixed results when looking for its Linux compatibility. There seems to be a driver but it is not included into the vanilla sources. There are also bug reports like [2]. On the other hand, there have been commits which indicate support for some sub types (but not the E type) through the r8169 driver as far back as 2.6.28 ([3-6]). Long story short: Can anyone confirm that it works or doesn't work with standard gentoo-sources or some other sources? Does someone have experiences with the Realtek drivers from their website? Somehow I find it hard to believe that nowadays Linux lacks support for like 80% of all Micro-ATX AMD boards. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660 [2] https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=592141 [3] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=197ff761dbf9fa5de9a4684a51ee5cb534cbb852 [4] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ef3386f00fcd18a40343047329ec7ed2eb98bbe8 [5] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=5b538df9dedb3469b688b93ffab2a7efb64c88e3 [6] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=7f3e3d3a69da262016db6eec803881603c61ddf6 I have this according to lspci: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03) Mine uses the driver r8169 and it works fine. I'm not sure about the E part tho. If it is not some huge change, it may work fine. If you are not wanting or needing to stick with ASUS, why not try this Gigabyte mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 I just built my rig with that mobo and it works fine. If you want to use that, I can email you my kernel config and make life easier on you. That mobo does not have built in video but I think there is one that does tho. If you want to look up mobos and such for compatibility, try this site and look on the left. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ They are not always listed in there but if you can find one with the same chipset and such, at least you can decide whether to try it or not. Hope this helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
On Saturday 29 January 2011 13:29:53 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm thinking about building a new media PC and wanted to use an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 mainboard (link: [1]). Any objections to this? I wouldn't buy an Asus board at the moment, thanks to their crappyness. I bought a GA-880GA-UD3H 4 weeks ago. It works. rtl8111d/e lan chip usb3 lots of pcie slots. note: you don't have to care about the realtek suffices. 8111d/e/whatever... they just work
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 and RTL-8168
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 29 January 2011 13:29:53 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm thinking about building a new media PC and wanted to use an ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 mainboard (link: [1]). Any objections to this? I wouldn't buy an Asus board at the moment, thanks to their crappyness. I bought a GA-880GA-UD3H 4 weeks ago. It works. rtl8111d/e lan chip usb3 lots of pcie slots. note: you don't have to care about the realtek suffices. 8111d/e/whatever... they just work That mobo is a nice one. Lots of good stuff. If I recall correctly it has the latest SATA too. The 6Gbs speed that is. Mine has 3Gbs. I read somewhere that the current line up of Gigabyte mobos are the highest rated. It used to be Abit and ASUS but we all know how these things change. There was another one that was highly rated a good long while back, especially with Linux users, but I can't recall the brand now. ASRock or something? Maybe? I looked into ASUS before my build and switched to Gigabyte after some research. About the only thing I was settled on when I started was a Nvidia based video card. The rest was open to changes. I do wish I had got the 6 core CPU now tho. That is my only regret. Still happy tho. This new rig is easily 7 or 8 times faster all the way around. Dale :-) :-)
