Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium bloat

2016-02-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 27 February 2016 08:15:47 Daniel Frey wrote:
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> The brackets mean the USE flag is forced, masked or removed.
> 
> (if you want to jump to the section in `man emerge` search for () using
> "/\(\)" as searching for verbose or -v shows results everywhere)

Actually, that search string failed in /usr/bin/most here, which I have as 
my MANPAGER. I just needed "/()".

> man emerge:
> 
>--verbose [ y | n ] (-v short option)
>   Tell  emerge  to run in verbose mode.  Currently this flag
> causes emerge to print out GNU info errors, if any, and to show the USE
> flags that will be used for each package when pretending. The following
> symbols are affixed to USE
>   flags in order to indicate their status:
> 
>   Symbol   LocationMeaning
>  
> ──
> 
>   -prefix  not enabled (either disabled or
> removed) *suffix  transition to or from the enabled state %  
>  suffix  newly added or removed
>   ()   circumfix   forced, masked, or removed
>   {}   circumfix   state is bound to FEATURES settings

So it is - thanks. I wonder how I missed it the first time. Anno Domini is at 
work again.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium bloat

2016-02-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 02/27/2016 07:18 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday 27 February 2016 14:58:25 I wrote:
>> On Saturday 27 February 2016 12:51:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:35:02 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 I think I know the answer already, but is there any way to install
 www-
 client/chromium without all the bloat? I don't see any need here for

 any of these:
app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher
app-accessibility/espeak
media-sound/sox
media-libs/libsndfile
media-libs/speex

 ...but they aren't controlled, or even affected, by USE flags. And why
 two versions of dev-python/beautifulsoup?
>>>
>>> Looking at the ebuild, speech-dispatcher is required is you do not have
>>> USE="gn", the rest aren't mentioned and are probably dependencies of
>>> speech-dispatcher.
>>
>> That looked promising until I noticed "(-gn)" in USE when I said emerge
>> -pv chromium. So of course setting it in package.use didn't help.
> 
> Where are these punctuation marks documented, anyway? I've looked in various 
> man pages and even the portage/output.py file under /usr/lib. Google didn't 
> help either.
> 

The brackets mean the USE flag is forced, masked or removed.

(if you want to jump to the section in `man emerge` search for () using
"/\(\)" as searching for verbose or -v shows results everywhere)

man emerge:

   --verbose [ y | n ] (-v short option)
  Tell  emerge  to run in verbose mode.  Currently this flag
causes emerge to print out GNU info errors, if any, and to show the USE
flags that will be used for each package when pretending. The following
symbols are affixed to USE
  flags in order to indicate their status:


  Symbol   LocationMeaning
  ──

  -prefix  not enabled (either disabled or removed)
  *suffix  transition to or from the enabled state
  %suffix  newly added or removed
  ()   circumfix   forced, masked, or removed
  {}   circumfix   state is bound to FEATURES settings




Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium bloat

2016-02-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 27 February 2016 14:58:25 I wrote:
> On Saturday 27 February 2016 12:51:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:35:02 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I think I know the answer already, but is there any way to install
> > > www-
> > > client/chromium without all the bloat? I don't see any need here for
> > > 
> > > any of these:
> > >   app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher
> > >   app-accessibility/espeak
> > >   media-sound/sox
> > >   media-libs/libsndfile
> > >   media-libs/speex
> > > 
> > > ...but they aren't controlled, or even affected, by USE flags. And why
> > > two versions of dev-python/beautifulsoup?
> > 
> > Looking at the ebuild, speech-dispatcher is required is you do not have
> > USE="gn", the rest aren't mentioned and are probably dependencies of
> > speech-dispatcher.
> 
> That looked promising until I noticed "(-gn)" in USE when I said emerge
> -pv chromium. So of course setting it in package.use didn't help.

Where are these punctuation marks documented, anyway? I've looked in various 
man pages and even the portage/output.py file under /usr/lib. Google didn't 
help either.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium bloat

2016-02-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 27 February 2016 12:51:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:35:02 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I think I know the answer already, but is there any way to install www-
> > client/chromium without all the bloat? I don't see any need here for
> > 
> > any of these:
> > app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher
> > app-accessibility/espeak
> > media-sound/sox
> > media-libs/libsndfile
> > media-libs/speex
> > 
> > ...but they aren't controlled, or even affected, by USE flags. And why
> > two versions of dev-python/beautifulsoup?
> 
> Looking at the ebuild, speech-dispatcher is required is you do not have
> USE="gn", the rest aren't mentioned and are probably dependencies of
> speech-dispatcher.

That looked promising until I noticed "(-gn)" in USE when I said emerge -pv 
chromium. So of course setting it in package.use didn't help.

Thanks anyway.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium bloat

2016-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:35:02 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> I think I know the answer already, but is there any way to install www-
> client/chromium without all the bloat? I don't see any need here for
> any of these:
> 
>   app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher
>   app-accessibility/espeak
>   media-sound/sox
>   media-libs/libsndfile
>   media-libs/speex
> 
> ...but they aren't controlled, or even affected, by USE flags. And why
> two versions of dev-python/beautifulsoup?

Looking at the ebuild, speech-dispatcher is required is you do not have
USE="gn", the rest aren't mentioned and are probably dependencies of
speech-dispatcher.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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