Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
Hi Kurt, on Wednesday, 2006-05-17 at 11:33:30, you wrote: Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager. Right, right. I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the proper terminology. You both do :) Gnome is a desktop environment that comes with a window manager (currently Metacity IIRC, used to be Sawfish) but can be used with a number of other window managers as well. Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop. I have gnome setup (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X configured to use an external port such that I can xhost +servername and pop a window on my desktop. ssh has been suggested, and I second that. Much better than xhost 'n stuff. cheers! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpuiuHls18Ea.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
ssh is too slow for X. It's okay if you're using a quick utility, but working on an IDE all day long is tedious. (Although, my new laptop has plenty of horse power (dual-centrino), so it's not as much of an issue working off my desktop.) As for security, I use iptables when I'm not in my office. --Kurt Matthias Bethke wrote: Hi Kurt, on Wednesday, 2006-05-17 at 11:33:30, you wrote: Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager. Right, right. I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the proper terminology. You both do :) Gnome is a desktop environment that comes with a window manager (currently Metacity IIRC, used to be Sawfish) but can be used with a number of other window managers as well. Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop. I have gnome setup (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X configured to use an external port such that I can xhost +servername and pop a window on my desktop. ssh has been suggested, and I second that. Much better than xhost 'n stuff. cheers! Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:22, Kurt Guenther wrote: I updated to the latest gnome: gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1 but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server. This was previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf by adding: gnome can not act as a X server, because it is not one! You meant login manager, right? that is something completly different. any real reason for this? DisallowTCP=false ? except opening a real severe security hole? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated to the latest gnome: gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1 but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server. This was previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf by adding: Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager. [security] DisallowTCP=false RelaxPermissions=2 This certainly has NOTHING to do with your problem. You seem to want GDM as your login manager, wich is understandable. Maybe Gnome installation changed some config files and you carelessly ran etc-update. However, gdm.conf was renamed to custom.conf, and the values don't seem to work anymore. Are you getting GDM as your login manager when you run /etc/init.d/xdm start? If not, that's because your /etc/rc.conf has different settings. Check it, it should look like: DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm XSESSION=gnome Any ideas? Yeah, you need to read some man pages about what is the X server, what are Login Managers and Window Managers and how you configure them in Gentoo. I recommend: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml Good luck, -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:22, Kurt Guenther wrote: I updated to the latest gnome: gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1 but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server. This was previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf by adding: gnome can not act as a X server, because it is not one! You meant login manager, right? that is something completly different. any real reason for this? DisallowTCP=false ? except opening a real severe security hole? Ok, window manager. Just want to pop remote windows on my desktop. As for security, I use iptables to block the port and I only open it in a secure office setting. --Kurt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated to the latest gnome: gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1 but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server. This was previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf by adding: Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager. Right, right. I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the proper terminology. Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop. I have gnome setup (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X configured to use an external port such that I can xhost +servername and pop a window on my desktop. Previously, this was done via gdm.conf and I've been doing this for years this way and if you look in: /usr/share/*gdm*/defaults.*conf* you'll see the potential settings. --Kurt [security] DisallowTCP=false RelaxPermissions=2 This certainly has NOTHING to do with your problem. You seem to want GDM as your login manager, wich is understandable. Maybe Gnome installation changed some config files and you carelessly ran etc-update. gdm is my login manager. However, gdm.conf was renamed to custom.conf, and the values don't seem to work anymore. Are you getting GDM as your login manager when you run /etc/init.d/xdm start? If not, that's because your /etc/rc.conf has different settings. Check it, it should look like: DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm XSESSION=gnome Any ideas? Yeah, you need to read some man pages about what is the X server, what are Login Managers and Window Managers and how you configure them in Gentoo. I recommend: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml Good luck, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 17:23, Kurt Guenther wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 15:22, Kurt Guenther wrote: I updated to the latest gnome: gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1 but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server. This was previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf by adding: gnome can not act as a X server, because it is not one! You meant login manager, right? that is something completly different. any real reason for this? DisallowTCP=false ? except opening a real severe security hole? Ok, window manager. Just want to pop remote windows on my desktop. As for security, I use iptables to block the port and I only open it in a secure office setting. in that case might be ssh with X forwarding the right solution? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome as an X Server.
On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 5/17/06, Kurt Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated to the latest gnome: gnome-base/gnome-2.14.1 but, now, I can't seem to get gnome to act as an X server. This was previously done in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf by adding: Hmm, maybe cause it is NOT an X server, its a Window Manager. Right, right. I probably deserve to get spanked for not using the proper terminology. Anyway, I'd like to pop X windows on my desktop. I have gnome setup (including gdm), everything is working fine, except that I don't have X configured to use an external port such that I can xhost +servername and pop a window on my desktop. Previously, this was done via gdm.conf and I've been doing this for years this way and if you look in: /usr/share/*gdm*/defaults.*conf* you'll see the potential settings. Well, you made yourself clear now! Your previous email gave me and Volker a completely wrong view of your problem, and you gotta admit you sent a wrong subject and a body that contained information leading us to think as we did. You probably can do all this setting using GDM itself, then check the config files and see how they were written by the app. Go System - Configure Login Manager and check what you need there... -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
