Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices

2006-03-24 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:49:40 -0700
Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 14:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
  I am unclear what you mean here. what is a Analog to Digital S-VHS
  converter. I suspect it has RCA analog video in, but what comes out?
  is
  it DV (like a DV camera format)?
  
  If so I suspect you will ned up with a DV format file on your
  computer,
  not sure if you can see that live but it might in kino.
  
  emerge kino and try it. 
 
 The Converter has an Analog IN input (RCA-type A/V jack) and output is
 S-VHS Video Out / Coaxial S/PDIF out / Toslink out
 So I'm not sure I'll be able to take advantage of it, I think I need RCA
 to DV converter (with FireWire port)

do you mean s-video rather than s-vhs? s-video is still an analog
signal. anyway its not gonna do what we want.

analog to dv is an expensive device, but some digital video cameras
have an analog rca input and you can convert old analog stuff to dv by
passing it through the camera. I am not sure if you have to record it
on to digital video tape first and then play it out over the firewore
port, or whther you can simply pass it through.

A simple PCI framegrabber will do what you want, but you specified USB
or firewire, so are we dealing with a laptop? If you need a USB device
i pointed out one that will work in my first post, but thats not to say
other usb devices won't work.

The other option is a webcam device on top of the microscope. 


 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices

2006-03-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:05:01 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:

 analog to dv is an expensive device, but some digital video cameras
 have an analog rca input and you can convert old analog stuff to dv by
 passing it through the camera. I am not sure if you have to record it
 on to digital video tape first and then play it out over the firewore
 port, or whther you can simply pass it through.

My Canon camcorder will pass it through. I've hooked a VCR up to it like
this to transfer video tapes to Kino.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices

2006-03-24 Thread Joseph
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 01:05 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:49:40 -0700
 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 14:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
   I am unclear what you mean here. what is a Analog to Digital S-VHS
   converter. I suspect it has RCA analog video in, but what comes out?
   is
   it DV (like a DV camera format)?
   
   If so I suspect you will ned up with a DV format file on your
   computer,
   not sure if you can see that live but it might in kino.
   
   emerge kino and try it. 
  
  The Converter has an Analog IN input (RCA-type A/V jack) and output is
  S-VHS Video Out / Coaxial S/PDIF out / Toslink out
  So I'm not sure I'll be able to take advantage of it, I think I need RCA
  to DV converter (with FireWire port)
 
 do you mean s-video rather than s-vhs? s-video is still an analog
 signal. anyway its not gonna do what we want.

You are right, I just converts composite video to S-Video; so it will
not be much of use to me.

 analog to dv is an expensive device, but some digital video cameras
 have an analog rca input and you can convert old analog stuff to dv by
 passing it through the camera. I am not sure if you have to record it
 on to digital video tape first and then play it out over the firewore
 port, or whther you can simply pass it through.

Good idea I'll try to see if it works.  I've installed the ieee1394 card
and tried it with Digial Camera and kino; it works perfectly.   
My Digital Camera has an AV port so I'll try to connect the it and use
it as a player (dubbing), but as you said I'll have to test if it goes
through or I need to record it first, I'll try this sometime this
evening.

 A simple PCI framegrabber will do what you want, but you specified USB
 or firewire, so are we dealing with a laptop? If you need a USB device
 i pointed out one that will work in my first post, but thats not to say
 other usb devices won't work.

The 400x Microscope (fiberscope) I have connects to a standard TV and
the picture is black and white, but I would like to find the simplest
solution to connect it to a PC (and Laptop eventually) and take a
picture.

The simplex solution is the best for me so I was looking for USB port
since both Laptop and PC have them.  If I go with PCI card (be it
ieee1394 or any framegrabber) I can only use it with PC.

QUESTION regarding ieee1394:
When I installed the ieee1394 card, it has two 6-pin ports and one 4-pin
port.
I have connected the Digital Camera to one of the 6-pin ports and I
couldn't make it to work with kino, so I try the other port and it
worked.

I was under impression that ieee1394 cards would work the same as
USB-ports; regardless which port I plug my device into it will just
work, not so with ieee1394 cards.

How do I control which port I need to plug the device into and how are
they numbered?
In kino under settings there is IEEE1394 tab and has an option
raw1394 interface option that is set to 0 I've tried setting it to
1 but it didn't work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices

2006-03-23 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 09:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:22:00 -0700
 Joseph wrote:
 
  Are there any USB type TV / Video capture devices that works with Linux?
  
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 From the mythtv docs:
 
 USB Capture Devices.
 
 The Plextor ConvertX PVR devices are supported through Linux drivers
 available from http://www.plextor.com/english/support/LinuxSDK.htm.
 MythTV uses the Plextor to capture hardware encoded MPEG-4, so the host
 CPU requirements are low.

That would do it with a bit of tweaking.
All I want is to connect my Video Microscope (that has standard RCA
Rack) to TV IN Card to see a live picture and be able to capture a
frame.
I have a  ieee-1394 card and Kino application supports ieee-1394.
I have as well Analog to Digital S-VHS converter.

But is it possible to have a cable from S-VHS to FireWire 4 or 6pin; to
connect it to ieee-1394 card?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices

2006-03-23 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:10:14 -0700
Joseph wrote:

 I have a  ieee-1394 card and Kino application supports ieee-1394.
 I have as well Analog to Digital S-VHS converter.
 
 But is it possible to have a cable from S-VHS to FireWire 4 or 6pin; to
 connect it to ieee-1394 card?

I am unclear what you mean here. what is a Analog to Digital S-VHS
converter. I suspect it has RCA analog video in, but what comes out? is
it DV (like a DV camera format)?

If so I suspect you will ned up with a DV format file on your computer,
not sure if you can see that live but it might in kino.

emerge kino and try it. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices

2006-03-23 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 14:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 I am unclear what you mean here. what is a Analog to Digital S-VHS
 converter. I suspect it has RCA analog video in, but what comes out?
 is
 it DV (like a DV camera format)?
 
 If so I suspect you will ned up with a DV format file on your
 computer,
 not sure if you can see that live but it might in kino.
 
 emerge kino and try it. 

The Converter has an Analog IN input (RCA-type A/V jack) and output is
S-VHS Video Out / Coaxial S/PDIF out / Toslink out
So I'm not sure I'll be able to take advantage of it, I think I need RCA
to DV converter (with FireWire port)

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