Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
I have exactly the same problem:

I tried everything (well, everything I'm aware of :-) ) but I always get:

[blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez (net-wireless/bluez is blocking
net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36)
[blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez-libs (net-wireless/bluez-libs is
blocking net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r1)


Any idea?

Thanks,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Chao-Rui Chang
Hello,

just remove any bluez 3.x , such as bluez-libs
the problem will be solved.

Best regards,
Gentoo


2009/9/8 Massimiliano Ziccardi massimiliano.zicca...@gmail.com

 I have exactly the same problem:

 I tried everything (well, everything I'm aware of :-) ) but I always get:

 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez (net-wireless/bluez is blocking
 net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36)
 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez-libs (net-wireless/bluez-libs is
 blocking net-wireless/bluez-4.39-r1)


 Any idea?

 Thanks,
 Massimiliano



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Already done

localhost ~ # emerge --search bluez | egrep bluez|installed | egrep -v
Homepage|Description
[ Results for search key : bluez ]
*  dev-python/pybluez
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-bluefw
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-firmware
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-gnome
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-hcidump
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-hciemu
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-libs
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  net-wireless/bluez-utils
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  sec-policy/selinux-bluez
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
*  x11-plugins/gkrellm-bluez [ Masked ]
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]


So I guess I don't have bluez anymore

Any other idea?

Thanks.
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:27:41 +0200, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:

 So I guess I don't have bluez anymore
 
 Any other idea?

Tell what command you are running.
Add the --tree option to emerge
Post the output.


-- 
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Assembler: (n.) a minor program of interest only to obsessed programmers.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Massimiliano Ziccardi:
 Already done

 localhost ~ # emerge --search bluez | egrep bluez|installed | egrep -v
 Homepage|Description
 [ Results for search key : bluez ]
 *  dev-python/pybluez
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-bluefw
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-firmware
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-gnome
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-hcidump
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-hciemu
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-libs
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  net-wireless/bluez-utils
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  sec-policy/selinux-bluez
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
 *  x11-plugins/gkrellm-bluez [ Masked ]
   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]


 So I guess I don't have bluez anymore

 Any other idea?

You have some thing installed that needs bluez-3. So if you do --update world, 
both bluez versions are pulled in, and then they block each other. The 
solution is to remove the need for both of them, either by removing the 
package that needs bluez-3 or by removing its dependency on bluez by settings 
its use flags to bluetooth.

$ equery d bluez
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:

 You have some thing installed that needs bluez-3. So if you do --update
 world, both bluez versions are pulled in, and then they block each other.
 The solution is to remove the need for both of them, either by removing the
 package that needs bluez-3 or by removing its dependency on bluez by
 settings its use flags to bluetooth.
^
I meant -bluetooth of course.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
equery d bluez did not return anything...

localhost ~ # equery d bluez
[ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
localhost ~ #

Any other idea?

Thank you!!


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 The command is :
 
 emerge -uD --tree world
 
 The output is in the attached file
 
 
 Thanks you all!
 

nice wicd really pulls in a lot of crap. Or to me more accurate gksu pulls in 
a lot of crap. Nautilus? Just to ask for the root pw?

That is really, really bad.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
 localhost ~ # equery d bluez
 [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
 localhost ~ #
 
 Any other idea?
 
 Thank you!!
 

yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!
 
 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.

No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:

RDEPEND=

|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )

So he probably wants to do this:

emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world

This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and emerge 
doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
   equery d bluez did not return anything...
  
   localhost ~ # equery d bluez
   [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
   localhost ~ #
  
   Any other idea?
  
   Thank you!!
 
  yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
 
 No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
 
 RDEPEND=
 
 || ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
 
 So he probably wants to do this:
 
 emerge -av1 kdesu
 emerge -avuND world
 
 This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and emerge
 doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
 

the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that and all 
its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
equery d bluez did not return anything...
   
localhost ~ # equery d bluez
[ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
localhost ~ #
   
Any other idea?
   
Thank you!!
  
   yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
 
  No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
 
  RDEPEND=
 
  || ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
 
  So he probably wants to do this:
 
  emerge -av1 kdesu
  emerge -avuND world
 
  This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
  emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
 
 the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that and
  all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.

So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  The command is :
 
  emerge -uD --tree world
 
  The output is in the attached file
 
 
  Thanks you all!

 nice wicd really pulls in a lot of crap. Or to me more accurate gksu pulls
 in a lot of crap. Nautilus? Just to ask for the root pw?

 That is really, really bad.

Hm.. I’m slightly puzzled. Wicd needs one of kdesu, gksu or ktsuss. But since 
it’s already installed (nomerge in the emerge output), this condition is 
already fulfilled. So one other solution would be to deinstall wicd, install 
kde so kdesu gets installed and then remerge wicd. Then it finds kdesu and 
won't ask for gksu and nautilus in the process. Besides, the dependency 
nautilus can be removed by using -gnome.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 equery d bluez did not return anything...

 localhost ~ # equery d bluez
 [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
 localhost ~ #

 Any other idea?

 Thank you!!
   
yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
  
   No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
  
   RDEPEND=
  
   || ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
  
   So he probably wants to do this:
  
   emerge -av1 kdesu
   emerge -avuND world
  
   This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
   emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
 
  the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that and
   all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
 So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?
 

because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in 
nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thank you people!!

I'm trying Alan's tip. I'll let you know when I'll finish : it must perform
26 compilations :-( )

Just one question : how did you notice the problem was kdesu? I didn't see
any
dependency from bluez...

Thanks,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Thank you people!!
 
 I'm trying Alan's tip. I'll let you know when I'll finish : it must perform
 26 compilations :-( )
 
 Just one question : how did you notice the problem was kdesu? I didn't see
 any
 dependency from bluez...
 
 Thanks,
 Massimiliano
 

kdesu is not the problem gksu is. Entirely different app.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Yep, sorry.

Same question : how did you notice the problem was gksu? I didn't notice any
dependency from bluez...

(I'd like to be able to solve these problems without bother you)

Thanks,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thanks a lot!

Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Yep, sorry.
 
 Same question : how did you notice the problem was gksu? I didn't notice
  any dependency from bluez...
 
 (I'd like to be able to solve these problems without bother you)
 
 Thanks,
 Massimiliano
 

from your emerge-log.txt:


[nomerge  ] net-misc/wicd-1.5.9-r1 
[nomerge  ]  x11-libs/gksu-2.0.2 
[nomerge  ]   gnome-base/nautilus-2.24.2-r3 
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.24.3-r1 
[nomerge  ] dev-python/libgnome-python-2.22.3 
[nomerge  ]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1 
[nomerge  ]   gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1 
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2 
[ebuild  N] net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36  USE=-debug 

wicd is installed and needs/wants gksu.

gksu is installed and needs nautilus (wtf?)
nautilus is installed and needs gnome-desktop
...

gnome gvfs is installed and wants bluez-libs.

bluez-libs are not installed, so they are pulled in.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Hmmm.. It seems that uninstalling firefox did solve the problem

Thank you all!!

Today you teched me a lot of things about gentoo!!!

Thank you,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:14:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!

 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
   
No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
   
RDEPEND=
   
|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
   
So he probably wants to do this:
   
emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world
   
This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
  
   the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that
   and all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
  So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?
 
 because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in
 nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.

Which conflicts with this prior statement of yours:

the problem is that gksu is already installed

If it's already installed, it will pull in bluez. It's in the dep tree not 
because he wants wicd, but because it is already present.

wicd works just fine without gksu. It will use kdesu, which is also fine as he 
wants to merge kde-meta

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
I hate this Now I get this error:

Calculating dependencies... done!

 Verifying ebuild manifests

!!! Digest verification failed:
!!! /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/ChangeLog
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got: 11925
!!! Expected: 11928


Have you any idea?

Thanks a lot,
Massimiliano

On 9/8/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:14:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!

 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
   
No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
   
RDEPEND=
   
|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
   
So he probably wants to do this:
   
emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world
   
This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu and
emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
  
   the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that
   and all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
  So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?

 because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in
 nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.

 Which conflicts with this prior statement of yours:

 the problem is that gksu is already installed

 If it's already installed, it will pull in bluez. It's in the dep tree not
 because he wants wicd, but because it is already present.

 wicd works just fine without gksu. It will use kdesu, which is also fine as
 he
 wants to merge kde-meta

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:11:33 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Still no luck...
 
 Attached my new log...
 
 Any other idea?

From your log:

[nomerge  ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.13  USE=dbus gnome startup-
notification xulrunner -bindist -custom-optimization -iceweasel -java -
mozdevelop -restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -bn -bn_IN -ca -cs -
cy -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -eo -es -es_AR -es_ES -et -eu -fi -fr -fy -
fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gl -gu -gu_IN -he -hi -hi_IN -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kn -ko 
-ku -lt -lv -mk -mn -mr -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -oc -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -
pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -te -th -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN 
-zh_TW 
[nomerge  ]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1  USE=-doc 
[nomerge  ]   gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1  USE=esd -debug -doc 
[nomerge  ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2  USE=bluetooth gnome hal -archive 
-avahi -bash-completion -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -
samba 
[ebuild  N] net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36  USE=-debug 0 kB

The basic problem is that bluez version 3 and 4 are incompatible. You can have 
one or the other but not both. If packages want to give you both, you have to 
persuade them to not give you the undesired one.

You need to learn to read the emerge output and see what is causing bluez-
libs-3 to be emerged. In this case it is gvfs. That ebuild says this:

RDEPEND=
...
bluetooth? (
dev-libs/dbus-glib
=net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.12


And bluez-libs is part of the version 3 package. The only way to solve this is 
to stop gvfs from wanting bluez-libs. Several options:

You are installing kde-meta, do you really want all of gnome? Put -gnome in 
USE.

Do you really want gnome support in Firefox? Put -gnome in package.use for 
firefox

Do you use gvfs to access filesystems over bluetooth? Put -bluetooth in 
package.use for gvfs

Do you actually use bluetooth at all? Put -bluetooth in USE

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:20:23 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Hmmm.. It seems that uninstalling firefox did solve the problem

Now you don't have Firefox.

fifty bucks says you want it back tomorrow :-)

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:12:57 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 8. September 2009 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
  On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
   The command is :
  
   emerge -uD --tree world
  
   The output is in the attached file
  
  
   Thanks you all!
 
  nice wicd really pulls in a lot of crap. Or to me more accurate gksu
  pulls in a lot of crap. Nautilus? Just to ask for the root pw?
 
  That is really, really bad.
 
 Hm.. I’m slightly puzzled. Wicd needs one of kdesu, gksu or ktsuss. But
  since it’s already installed (nomerge in the emerge output), this
  condition is already fulfilled. So one other solution would be to
  deinstall wicd, install kde so kdesu gets installed and then remerge wicd.
  Then it finds kdesu and won't ask for gksu and nautilus in the process.
  Besides, the dependency nautilus can be removed by using -gnome.

That won't work. He already has gksu installed

The references to wicd are irrelevant, pure coincidence that wicd can use gksu

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
hmm... an emerge-webrsync seems to have solved it

Thank you a lot!!!


On 9/8/09, Massimiliano Ziccardi massimiliano.zicca...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hate this Now I get this error:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Verifying ebuild manifests

 !!! Digest verification failed:
 !!! /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/ChangeLog
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got: 11925
 !!! Expected: 11928


 Have you any idea?

 Thanks a lot,
 Massimiliano

 On 9/8/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:14:40 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:56:35 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 14:14:27 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  equery d bluez did not return anything...
 
  localhost ~ # equery d bluez
  [ Searching for packages depending on bluez... ]
  localhost ~ #
 
  Any other idea?
 
  Thank you!!

 yes, get rid of wicd and its dependencies.
   
No, he doesn't need to do that. gksu is one of three options:
   
RDEPEND=
   
|| ( x11-misc/ktsuss x11-libs/gksu kde-base/kdesu )
   
So he probably wants to do this:
   
emerge -av1 kdesu
emerge -avuND world
   
This works. I know it works. I have wicd and I do not have gksu
and
emerge doesn't feel inclined to tell me to get gksu.
  
   the problem is that gksu is already installed. He has to remove that
   and all its deps or emerge will always try to pull in bluez-libs.
 
  So why are you telling him to get rid of wicd?

 because wicd was/is pulling in gksu on his system, which is pulling in
 nautilus, which is pulling in a lot of other stuff.

 Which conflicts with this prior statement of yours:

 the problem is that gksu is already installed

 If it's already installed, it will pull in bluez. It's in the dep tree
 not
 because he wants wicd, but because it is already present.

 wicd works just fine without gksu. It will use kdesu, which is also fine
 as
 he
 wants to merge kde-meta

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com






Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:42:26 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Hi Alan... Thank you... No, I don't want gnome at all...
 
 Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

No. Doing that is not persistent.

I recommend you need to re-read the Gentoo docs, the chapter about USE flags.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Thank you all a lot.
I won't bother you for some time :-)

Just one thing: people often thinks gentoo is harder than other
distributions to use.

Well, maybe that's true, however here I found the best support I've ever
found for a linux distribution (and for softwares in general...).

Keep on this way.

Thanks,
Massimiliano


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:42:26 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  Hi Alan... Thank you... No, I don't want gnome at all...
 
  Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

 No. Doing that is not persistent.

 I recommend you need to re-read the Gentoo docs, the chapter about USE
 flags.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:28:46 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 I hate this Now I get this error:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
  Verifying ebuild manifests
 
 !!! Digest verification failed:
 !!! /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/ChangeLog
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got: 11925
 !!! Expected: 11928
 
 
 Have you any idea?
 


1. Wait an hour, resync, try again

2. Wait 24 hours, resync, try again

3. File a bug

4. [For the truly brave only]
   ebuild /usr/portage/dev-python/PyQt4/PyQt4-4.4.4-r5 manifest

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Hi Alan... Thank you... No, I don't want gnome at all...

Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

Thanks,
Massimiliano


Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:42:26 +0200, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:

 Is a 'set USE=-gnome' enough?

No, you need to add it to make.conf, either manually or by running
flagedit -gnome


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 08 September 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:11:33 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
  Still no luck...
 
  Attached my new log...
 
  Any other idea?
 
 From your log:
 
 [nomerge  ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.13  USE=dbus gnome startup-
 notification xulrunner -bindist -custom-optimization -iceweasel -java -
 mozdevelop -restrict-javascript LINGUAS=-af -ar -be -bg -bn -bn_IN -ca
  -cs - cy -da -de -el -en -en_GB -en_US -eo -es -es_AR -es_ES -et -eu -fi
  -fr -fy - fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gl -gu -gu_IN -he -hi -hi_IN -hu -id -is -it
  -ja -ka -kn -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -mn -mr -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -oc -pa
  -pa_IN -pl -pt - pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr -sv -sv_SE -te
  -th -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW
 [nomerge  ]  gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1  USE=-doc
 [nomerge  ]   gnome-base/libgnome-2.24.1  USE=esd -debug -doc
 [nomerge  ]gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2  USE=bluetooth gnome hal
  -archive -avahi -bash-completion -cdda -debug -doc -fuse -gnome-keyring
  -gphoto2 - samba
 [ebuild  N] net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36  USE=-debug 0 kB
 
 The basic problem is that bluez version 3 and 4 are incompatible. You can
  have one or the other but not both. If packages want to give you both, you
  have to persuade them to not give you the undesired one.
 
 You need to learn to read the emerge output and see what is causing bluez-
 libs-3 to be emerged. In this case it is gvfs. That ebuild says this:
 
 RDEPEND=
   ...
 bluetooth? (
 dev-libs/dbus-glib
 
 =net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.12
 
 And bluez-libs is part of the version 3 package. The only way to solve this
  is to stop gvfs from wanting bluez-libs. Several options:
 
 You are installing kde-meta, do you really want all of gnome? Put -gnome in
 USE.
 
 Do you really want gnome support in Firefox? Put -gnome in package.use for
 firefox
 
 Do you use gvfs to access filesystems over bluetooth? Put -bluetooth in
 package.use for gvfs
 
 Do you actually use bluetooth at all? Put -bluetooth in USE
 

That covers pretty much all bases.

 If you don't wnat gnome - just put -gnome in make.conf (btw -alsa, are you 
sure about that? you have -alsa, -oss - you don't want sound?

set -gnome, if you don't want gnome. Then do an emerge -a --newuse world. Then 
emerge -a --depclean, and then retry. 

As long as gvfs with bluetooth flag is around, you will have that blockers. As 
long as several packages of you have the gnome flag, they will pull in gvfs.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 18:02:09 Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote:
 Thank you all a lot.
 I won't bother you for some time :-)
 
 Just one thing: people often thinks gentoo is harder than other
 distributions to use.

That's mostly because Gentoo forces you to think about what you want to do :-)

This isn't a bad thing, people have to think all the time. Like choosing a 
wife - men should consider very carefully if the girl is a good choice, then 
marry her if the answer is yes. Software choices are like that too. 

 Well, maybe that's true, however here I found the best support I've ever
 found for a linux distribution (and for softwares in general...).

Probably because we remember all too well what it was like for us in the early 
days. I remember my first Gentoo install in 2004, I just blindly followed the 
handbook without a clue what I was doing! That machine still runs, I fixed all 
my initial mistakes (no reinstall!), but it's no longer my primary machine. 
It's right next to me at this desk, as a file sever


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 01:02:33 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 This isn't a bad thing, people have to think all the time. Like
 choosing a wife - men should consider very carefully if the girl is a
 good choice, then marry her if the answer is yes. Software choices are
 like that too. 

Except software can be free, wives rarely are :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-04 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 4. September 2009 schrieb Jim Cunning:
 I am trying to install KDE 4.2 or 4.3 on a stable KDE 3.5.10 system,
 following the guidelines in
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml, and the emerge
 fails with the following blocks:
 ---
 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez-libs (net-wireless/bluez-libs is
 blocking net-wireless/bluez-4.39)
 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez (net-wireless/bluez is blocking
 net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36)

 Total: 294 packages (3 upgrades, 145 new, 141 in new slots, 5 reinstalls),
 Size of downloads: 347,708 kB
 Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)

  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
  * installed at the same time on the same system.

   ('installed', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36', 'nomerge') pulled in
 by

 =net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.12 required by

 ('installed', '/', 'gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2', 'nomerge')

   ('ebuild', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-4.39', 'merge') pulled in by
 net-wireless/bluez required by
 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/solid-4.2.4', 'merge')
 ---

 I don't use gnome, but it appears that gnome-base/gvfs is ultimately pulled
 in by net-im/pidgin, which I do use.  Does this mean I can't continue using
 pidgin with KDE4?  Are there good alternatives to pidgin, including OTR
 (the encrypted plug-in)?

I've had (and still have) the same problem. I solved it by removing 
kdebluetooth and the current bluez files. Another possibility is to disable 
bluetooth support in kde4 by setting USE flags to -bluetooth for the 
responsible kde4 packages. (use -t with emerge to see which packages those 
are).
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.x installation blocks

2009-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 04 September 2009 19:32:15 Jim Cunning wrote:
 I am trying to install KDE 4.2 or 4.3 on a stable KDE 3.5.10 system,
  following the guidelines in
  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml, and the emerge
  fails with the following blocks:
 ---
 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez-libs (net-wireless/bluez-libs is
  blocking net-wireless/bluez-4.39)
 [blocks B ] net-wireless/bluez (net-wireless/bluez is blocking
 net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36)
 
 Total: 294 packages (3 upgrades, 145 new, 141 in new slots, 5 reinstalls),
 Size of downloads: 347,708 kB
 Conflict: 2 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
 
  * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
  * installed at the same time on the same system.
 
   ('installed', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.36', 'nomerge') pulled in
  by
 
 =net-wireless/bluez-libs-3.12 required by
 
 ('installed', '/', 'gnome-base/gvfs-1.0.3-r2', 'nomerge')
 
   ('ebuild', '/', 'net-wireless/bluez-4.39', 'merge') pulled in by
 net-wireless/bluez required by
 ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/solid-4.2.4', 'merge')
 ---
 
 I don't use gnome, but it appears that gnome-base/gvfs is ultimately pulled
  in by net-im/pidgin, which I do use.  Does this mean I can't continue
  using pidgin with KDE4?  Are there good alternatives to pidgin, including
  OTR (the encrypted plug-in)?
 

bluez and bluez-libs are mutally blocking.

emerge -avC bluez-libs
emerge -av bluez

The message about gcfs is simply the dependency tree so you can see what 
causes bluez to be installed/retained, it's not the actual blocker.

IIRC gvfs can use bluez-4. Check the gvfs ebuild to make sure.

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