Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
If it's brand-new, have you ever installed Linux on this particular processor/motherboard combination? I had a problem with freezeups with my TurionX2 laptop until I used -noapic on the kernel line. Nothing much to do with load, except that more work = more chance of encountering the problem. I also had heat-related issues until I got the thermal sensors coupled with the speed governor. But then the machine would just turn off abruptly. I was able to get it to run long enough to recompile by putting a pencil up under the corner where the vents are, for more clearance and airflow. More details about the system might help you get better answers. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Thanks. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating. I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it until I can get a working system. Then I'll investigate cpu frequency scaling. Thanks for your advice. On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
Yes, it's a new Acer, with a Amd64 Turion mobile mk-38. I had thought initially that the cpu was to blame for the freezups as indeed I have never installed on this particular processor. So far, so good with the freezing, though. I propped the machine up, and all seems to be going smoothly... Does anyone know of any special considerations I should take with the processor? Thanks. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating. I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it until I can get a working system. Then I'll investigate cpu frequency scaling. Thanks for your advice. On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
It appears there are still apic issues under x86_64 SMP, so look at noapic if you continue to have hangups (you may have this AND heat problems). Also look at the AMD_64 architecture forums at gentoo.org. I'm not familiar with the Acer peripherals but that forum helped me with my HP9000z. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's a new Acer, with a Amd64 Turion mobile mk-38. I had thought initially that the cpu was to blame for the freezups as indeed I have never installed on this particular processor. So far, so good with the freezing, though. I propped the machine up, and all seems to be going smoothly... Does anyone know of any special considerations I should take with the processor? Thanks. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating. I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it until I can get a working system. Then I'll investigate cpu frequency scaling. Thanks for your advice. On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
