Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
rc-update You meant env-update, right? . The output was -- despite of what the guide exspected -- The guide shows the output from setting LANG. You set LC_CTYPE, so unless I'm missing something obvious your result is perfectly normal. The wording in the green box under listing 2.4 is perhaps a bit unclear: depending on what you are trying to achieve, setting LC_CTYPE instead of LANG might be enough, but they are definitely *not* the same thing. Follow the link in the same box for an explanation. andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
On Sunday 28 Aug 2011 09:51:36 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, following this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Doing a locale -a | grep de_DE | grep utf I got: de_DE.utf8 . Then I created the file /etc/init.d/02locale Hmm ... you probably want to create /etc/env.d/02locale instead. Then set in it: LC_LANG=de_DE.utf8 and perhaps: LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=C and things should hopefully work out as intended after you run env-update or logout/login. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net [11-08-28 12:08]: rc-update You meant env-update, right? . The output was -- despite of what the guide exspected -- The guide shows the output from setting LANG. You set LC_CTYPE, so unless I'm missing something obvious your result is perfectly normal. The wording in the green box under listing 2.4 is perhaps a bit unclear: depending on what you are trying to achieve, setting LC_CTYPE instead of LANG might be enough, but they are definitely *not* the same thing. Follow the link in the same box for an explanation. andrea Hi Andrea, thank you for your help! Currently the arrows (in the thread display) of mutt are not displayed correctly, but ist seems, that the rest works more or less... I installed mrxvt-unicode from svn...currently I cannot decide, which kind or worst I will accept: No Unicode in the terminal or bad tabs with unicode. Unfortunately I dont know of any leight weight (no gui) terminal emu, which supports tabs like mrxvt... Best regards and have a nice sunday ! :) mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-08-28 13:08]: On Sunday 28 Aug 2011 09:51:36 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, following this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Doing a locale -a | grep de_DE | grep utf I got: de_DE.utf8 . Then I created the file /etc/init.d/02locale Hmm ... you probably want to create /etc/env.d/02locale instead. Then set in it: LC_LANG=de_DE.utf8 and perhaps: LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=C and things should hopefully work out as intended after you run env-update or logout/login. -- Regards, Mick Hi Mick, I did create /etc/env.d/02locale...I only confused it in my posting... Now I have changed, what you have suggested, but mutt still has problems with the arrows when displaying threads. Is there any other fix known regarding mutt? Best regards and thank you for your help in advance! mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
Am Sonntag 28 August 2011, 10:51:36 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, following this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Doing a locale -a | grep de_DE | grep utf I got: de_DE.utf8 . Then I created the file /etc/init.d/02locale with the contents: LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 . As root I did a rc-update , which runs without any error/warning message. I sourced /etc/profile and did a locale . The output was -- despite of what the guide exspected -- LANG= LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=POSIX LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=POSIX LC_MONETARY=POSIX LC_MESSAGES=POSIX LC_PAPER=POSIX LC_NAME=POSIX LC_ADDRESS=POSIX LC_TELEPHONE=POSIX LC_MEASUREMENT=POSIX LC_IDENTIFICATION=POSIX LC_ALL= Since there is no what to do if something else happens-paragraph in the guide, I want to ask here, what I am doing wrong...??? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc why don't you just set: LC_ALL=de_DE.utf8 and LANG=de_DE.utf8 and maybe even LANGUAGE -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
On Sunday 28 Aug 2011 12:41:54 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-08-28 13:08]: On Sunday 28 Aug 2011 09:51:36 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, following this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Doing a locale -a | grep de_DE | grep utf I got: de_DE.utf8 . Then I created the file /etc/init.d/02locale Hmm ... you probably want to create /etc/env.d/02locale instead. Then set in it: LC_LANG=de_DE.utf8 and perhaps: LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=C and things should hopefully work out as intended after you run env-update or logout/login. Hi Mick, I did create /etc/env.d/02locale...I only confused it in my posting... Now I have changed, what you have suggested, but mutt still has problems with the arrows when displaying threads. Is there any other fix known regarding mutt? Although I'm using mrxvt as a terminal I do not use mutt. Where is mutt picking up its encoding for those arrows? Could it be that they are hard coded somehow in it? Sorry I can't suggest anything more useful on this problem ... -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding UTF-8 settings
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-08-28 18:08]: On Sunday 28 Aug 2011 12:41:54 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-08-28 13:08]: On Sunday 28 Aug 2011 09:51:36 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, following this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Doing a locale -a | grep de_DE | grep utf I got: de_DE.utf8 . Then I created the file /etc/init.d/02locale Hmm ... you probably want to create /etc/env.d/02locale instead. Then set in it: LC_LANG=de_DE.utf8 and perhaps: LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=C and things should hopefully work out as intended after you run env-update or logout/login. Hi Mick, I did create /etc/env.d/02locale...I only confused it in my posting... Now I have changed, what you have suggested, but mutt still has problems with the arrows when displaying threads. Is there any other fix known regarding mutt? Although I'm using mrxvt as a terminal I do not use mutt. Where is mutt picking up its encoding for those arrows? Could it be that they are hard coded somehow in it? Sorry I can't suggest anything more useful on this problem ... -- Regards, Mick Hi Mick, I switched from mrxvt, which gets screwed up when compiled from svn (the only source for a mrxvt, which a part of unicode support) and confronted then with some key combos like CTRL-SHIFT-UPARROW, to urxvt, which understands unicode fully, but has only a basic tabbed support. This fixes the locks. For the other problem, the arrows in threads, I instructed mutt to use ASCII-symbols like +- or \- instead, which looks a little retro, but may be this will correspond to the IBM Model M keyboard I use (and like so much ;). It just like being retro-progressive: Take the best of both worlds: Run a AMD-hexacore-PC, use Gentoo with openbox, avoid graphically gimmicks (no punt intended!), avoid using the mouse, get used to use vim, sed, awk, col, cmp, diff, join, uniq, fmt and such to their full power and do all this with a 20 year old keyboard, which looks like new. ;) Its feeling like MyGyver inventing the IT-industry from a soldering iron, a 80x40 charakter terminal and a 386 processor, hahahahaha! All this not really meant /THAT/ seriously... :) Best regards and have a nice whatever time of the day you currently may have . mcc
