Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote: [ I'm not sure what is the subject of the thread anymore. ] I bet you saw the subject line of this thread.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
[ I'm not sure what is the subject of the thread anymore.] As a small issue about the source of the name Gentoo, even though the Gentoo Penguin was named as *Pygoscelis papua* by Forster, that does not really help us to know where the English Common name came from. Forster apparently worked in South Africa, so that may help. Alan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to
the *OEDhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED
*, which reports that *Gentoo* was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as
1638 to distinguish Hindus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu in India
from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese *gentio* (compare
gentile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile); in the twentieth century
the term came to be regarded as
derogatoryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory
.
This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
@article{calaby1999european,
title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of
Australian Birds.},
author={Calaby, JH},
journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
volume={12},
number={3},
pages={313--329},
year={1999},
publisher={CSIRO}
}
to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not
over. The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua.
It should not be difficult to find the original description?*
Alan Davis
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM,
LinuxIsOnereallife@hmamail.**comreall...@hmamail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troederdan...@admin-box.com
wrote:
Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.
What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment
in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's
because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
Just stupid.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:
*Pygoscelis papua* (J.R.
Forsterhttp://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J.R._Forster,
1781). So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this
penguin.
Alan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the *
OED http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED*, which reports that *Gentoo* was
an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish
Hindushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduin India from Muslims, the English
term originating in Portuguese
*gentio* (compare gentile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile); in
the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as
derogatoryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory
.
This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
@article{calaby1999european,
title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian
Birds.},
author={Calaby, JH},
journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
volume={12},
number={3},
pages={313--329},
year={1999},
publisher={CSIRO}
}
to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over. The
scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should not be
difficult to find the original description?*
Alan Davis
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.dewrote:
On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM,
LinuxIsOnereallife@hmamail.**comreall...@hmamail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troederdan...@admin-box.com
wrote:
Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.
What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment
in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's
because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
Just stupid.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
Furthermore, the following publication is at least close enough to start
on. I don't have access today.
@article{forster1781natural,
title={Natural History and Description of the Tyger-Cat of the Cape
of Good Hope. By John Reinhold Forster, LL. DFR and AS},
author={Forster, J.R.},
journal={Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London},
volume={71},
pages={1--6},
year={1781},
publisher={JSTOR}
}
Alan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:
*Pygoscelis papua* (J.R.
Forsterhttp://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J.R._Forster,
1781). So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this
penguin.
Alan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the *
OED http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED*, which reports that *Gentoo* was
an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish
Hindushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduin India from Muslims, the English
term originating in Portuguese
*gentio* (compare gentile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile); in
the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as
derogatoryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory
.
This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
@article{calaby1999european,
title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian
Birds.},
author={Calaby, JH},
journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
volume={12},
number={3},
pages={313--329},
year={1999},
publisher={CSIRO}
}
to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over.
The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should
not be difficult to find the original description?*
Alan Davis
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.dewrote:
On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM,
LinuxIsOnereallife@hmamail.**comreall...@hmamail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troederdan...@admin-box.com
wrote:
Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.
What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment
in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's
because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
Just stupid.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
The application of Gentoo to the penguin is unclear, according to the OED,
which reports that Gentoo was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to
distinguish Hindus in India from Muslims, the English term originating in
Portuguese gentio (compare gentile); in the twentieth century the term
came to be regarded as derogatory.
This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
@article{calaby1999european,
title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian
Birds.},
author={Calaby, JH},
journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
volume={12},
number={3},
pages={313--329},
year={1999},
publisher={CSIRO}
}
to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over.
The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is Pygoscelis papua. It should not
be difficult to find the original description?
Nice Davis!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Okay so how do I add only b.g.o of the cacert.org and not others? Can you tell me the step by step process?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: troll_mode No. Gentoo is an anagram for net goo. Furthermore, Gentoo Linux is an anagram for Tux, go online. This why Gentoo was chosen. /troll_mode ;)--
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOnereall...@hmamail.com wrote: Hi, From where the word gentoo came into existence? Gentoo is a species of penguin. troll_mode No. Gentoo is an anagram for net goo. Furthermore, Gentoo Linux is an anagram for Tux, go online. This why Gentoo was chosen. /troll_mode Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this They (Gentoo penguin) are the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo are adapted to very harsh cold climates. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this They (Gentoo penguin) are the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo are adapted to very harsh cold climates. I liked the word 'Gentoo', cool!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
Dan Johansson wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOnereall...@hmamail.com wrote: Hi, From where the word gentoo came into existence? Gentoo is a species of penguin. troll_mode No. Gentoo is an anagram for net goo. Furthermore, Gentoo Linux is an anagram for Tux, go online. This why Gentoo was chosen. /troll_mode Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this They (Gentoo penguin) are the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo are adapted to very harsh cold climates. That was what I read somewhere too. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 12/20/2011 11:15 PM, Dale wrote: Dan Johansson wrote: On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOnereall...@hmamail.com wrote: Hi, From where the word gentoo came into existence? Gentoo is a species of penguin. troll_mode No. Gentoo is an anagram for net goo. Furthermore, Gentoo Linux is an anagram for Tux, go online. This why Gentoo was chosen. /troll_mode Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this They (Gentoo penguin) are the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo are adapted to very harsh cold climates. That was what I read somewhere too. Just to point out the obvious, I was of course joking :-) Nikos, you bleeping expletive deleted, I so wanted it to be your answer. - Mark
