Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 5: Broken file protocol for KDE 4 apps

[Michael Mol]

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:48:08 AM you wrote:
> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 09:07:46 PM Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > On 13/10/16 20:39, Michael Mol wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:54:48 PM Jörg Schaible wrote:
> > >> Anyone? After upgrading a second machine to KDE/Plasma 5, I have the
> > >> same
> > >> behavior there. All KDE-4-based apps fail to interact with the file
> > >> system.
> > >> Using KMail I can no longer add any attachment to an email nor save an
> > >> existing attachment to disk.
> > > 
> > > I'm running KMail (Gentoo doesn't have the KDE5 version in tree yet, so
> > > KDE4), and I send file attachments all the time. So I can say it's at
> > > least not *intrinsically* broken...
> > > 
> > > Much of KDE4 and KDE5 wind up installed side by side, FWIW. I'd suggest
> > > cycling through emerge @preserved-rebuild, revdep-rebuild, depclean, and
> > > see if that shakes something loose.
> > > 
> > > The KDE4->KDE5 transition was generally a royal PITA for me, too, though
> > > I
> > > can't remember what all broke...
> > 
> > Kwooty, an nzb downloaded, has the same problem. It's "4" as well. Hit
> > 
> > the "Open" button, a file dialogue pops up, closely followed by "Error
> > Kwooty" -> "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly". File
> > -> Open gets the same.
> > 
> > Dragging and dropping into the main window works and once the nzb files
> > 
> > have been parsed, kwooty behaves as expected.
> > 
> > This failure corresponds with a big update of KDE 5 stuff. I've just
> > 
> > has a quick browse through bugs for the last 36 hours and nothing jumps
> > out.
> I'm running 5.8.1 here. I've got all of Qt, all of frameworks and all of KDE
> Applications unmasked ~amd4, and my automatic updates building things every
> night. Started doing that when KDE went full-on rapid-release.
> 
> That said, I don't think I've restarted KMail or my login session since
> Monday. Hang on...

OK, tested, still works fine for me here.

Here's the output of "emerge -p -e --tree --with-bdeps=y kde-apps/kontact". 
Maybe we're running different versions of some important dependency?

Calculating dependencies  ... done!
[ebuild   R] kde-apps/kmail-4.14.11_pre20160211 
[ebuild   R]  x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1-r1 
[ebuild   R]   sys-devel/libtool-2.4.6 
[ebuild   R]dev-libs/libltdl-2.4.6 
[ebuild   R] app-arch/xz-utils-5.2.2 
[ebuild   R]sys-devel/automake-1.15 
[ebuild   R] sys-devel/autoconf-2.69 
[ebuild   R]  dev-lang/perl-5.22.2 
[ebuild   R]   app-admin/perl-cleaner-2.20 
[ebuild   R]app-portage/portage-utils-0.62 
[ebuild   R] dev-libs/iniparser-3.1-r1 
[ebuild   R]app-shells/bash-4.3_p48 
[ebuild   R] sys-libs/readline-6.3_p8-r2 
[ebuild   R]  virtual/pkgconfig-0-r1 
[ebuild   R]   dev-util/pkgconfig-0.28-r2 
[ebuild   R]dev-libs/glib-2.48.2 
[ebuild   R] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.25-r1 
[ebuild   R] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-1.4 
[ebuild   R]  dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.4 
[ebuild   R]   dev-lang/python-2.7.10-r1 
[ebuild   R]app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6-r7 
[ebuild   R]app-misc/mime-types-9 
[ebuild   R]dev-db/sqlite-3.13.0 
[ebuild   R] dev-libs/icu-57.1 
[ebuild   R]virtual/libffi-3.0.13-r1 
[ebuild   R] dev-libs/libffi-3.2.1 
[ebuild   R]dev-libs/expat-2.1.1-r2 
[ebuild   R]virtual/libintl-0-r2 
[ebuild   R]sys-libs/zlib-1.2.8-r1 
[ebuild   R]dev-libs/openssl-1.0.2j 
[ebuild   R] app-misc/c_rehash-1.7-r1 
[ebuild   R] app-misc/ca-certificates-20151214.3.21 
[ebuild   R]  dev-lang/python-3.4.3-r1 
[ebuild   R]   sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r5 
[ebuild   R]sys-libs/gpm-1.20.7-r2 
[ebuild   R] sys-apps/texinfo-6.1 
[ebuild   R]  dev-perl/Text-Unidecode-1.270.0 
[ebuild   R]   virtual/perl-ExtUtils-
MakeMaker-7.40.100_rc 
[ebuild   R]  sys-devel/gettext-0.19.7 
[ebuild   R]   virtual/acl-0-r2 
[ebuild   R]sys-apps/acl-2.2.52-r1 
[ebuild   R] sys-apps/attr-2.4.47-r2 
[ebuild   R]   virtual/libiconv-0-r2 
[ebuild   R]  dev-perl/libintl-perl-1.240.0 
[ebuild   R]  dev-perl/Unicode-EastAsianWidth-1.330.0-
r1 
[ebuild   R]   virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.560.100 
[ebuild   R] virtual/yacc-0 
[ebuild   R]  sys-devel/bison-3.0.4-r1 
[ebuild   R]   

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 5: Broken file protocol for KDE 4 apps

[Michael Mol]

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 09:07:46 PM Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 13/10/16 20:39, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:54:48 PM Jörg Schaible wrote:
> >> Anyone? After upgrading a second machine to KDE/Plasma 5, I have the same
> >> behavior there. All KDE-4-based apps fail to interact with the file
> >> system.
> >> Using KMail I can no longer add any attachment to an email nor save an
> >> existing attachment to disk.
> > 
> > I'm running KMail (Gentoo doesn't have the KDE5 version in tree yet, so
> > KDE4), and I send file attachments all the time. So I can say it's at
> > least not *intrinsically* broken...
> > 
> > Much of KDE4 and KDE5 wind up installed side by side, FWIW. I'd suggest
> > cycling through emerge @preserved-rebuild, revdep-rebuild, depclean, and
> > see if that shakes something loose.
> > 
> > The KDE4->KDE5 transition was generally a royal PITA for me, too, though I
> > can't remember what all broke...
> 
>   Kwooty, an nzb downloaded, has the same problem. It's "4" as well. Hit
> the "Open" button, a file dialogue pops up, closely followed by "Error
> Kwooty" -> "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly". File
> -> Open gets the same.
> 
>   Dragging and dropping into the main window works and once the nzb files
> have been parsed, kwooty behaves as expected.
> 
>   This failure corresponds with a big update of KDE 5 stuff. I've just
> has a quick browse through bugs for the last 36 hours and nothing jumps out.

I'm running 5.8.1 here. I've got all of Qt, all of frameworks and all of KDE 
Applications unmasked ~amd4, and my automatic updates building things every 
night. Started doing that when KDE went full-on rapid-release.

That said, I don't think I've restarted KMail or my login session since 
Monday. Hang on...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 5: Broken file protocol for KDE 4 apps

[Andrew Lowe]

On 13/10/16 20:39, Michael Mol wrote:

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:54:48 PM Jörg Schaible wrote:

Anyone? After upgrading a second machine to KDE/Plasma 5, I have the same
behavior there. All KDE-4-based apps fail to interact with the file system.
Using KMail I can no longer add any attachment to an email nor save an
existing attachment to disk.


I'm running KMail (Gentoo doesn't have the KDE5 version in tree yet, so KDE4),
and I send file attachments all the time. So I can say it's at least not
*intrinsically* broken...

Much of KDE4 and KDE5 wind up installed side by side, FWIW. I'd suggest
cycling through emerge @preserved-rebuild, revdep-rebuild, depclean, and see
if that shakes something loose.

The KDE4->KDE5 transition was generally a royal PITA for me, too, though I
can't remember what all broke...



	Kwooty, an nzb downloaded, has the same problem. It's "4" as well. Hit 
the "Open" button, a file dialogue pops up, closely followed by "Error 
Kwooty" -> "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly". File 
-> Open gets the same.


	Dragging and dropping into the main window works and once the nzb files 
have been parsed, kwooty behaves as expected.


	This failure corresponds with a big update of KDE 5 stuff. I've just 
has a quick browse through bugs for the last 36 hours and nothing jumps out.


Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 5: Broken file protocol for KDE 4 apps

[Michael Mol]

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:54:48 PM Jörg Schaible wrote:
> Anyone? After upgrading a second machine to KDE/Plasma 5, I have the same
> behavior there. All KDE-4-based apps fail to interact with the file system.
> Using KMail I can no longer add any attachment to an email nor save an
> existing attachment to disk.

I'm running KMail (Gentoo doesn't have the KDE5 version in tree yet, so KDE4), 
and I send file attachments all the time. So I can say it's at least not 
*intrinsically* broken...

Much of KDE4 and KDE5 wind up installed side by side, FWIW. I'd suggest 
cycling through emerge @preserved-rebuild, revdep-rebuild, depclean, and see 
if that shakes something loose.

The KDE4->KDE5 transition was generally a royal PITA for me, too, though I 
can't remember what all broke...

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 5: Broken file protocol for KDE 4 apps

[P Levine]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Jörg Schaible  wrote:
> Anyone? After upgrading a second machine to KDE/Plasma 5, I have the same
> behavior there. All KDE-4-based apps fail to interact with the file system.
> Using KMail I can no longer add any attachment to an email nor save an
> existing attachment to disk.
>
> Jörg Schaible wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> after the update to Plasma 5/KF5, I can no longer open (HTML) files from
>> my local disk with Konqueror. It claims it does no longer know the file
>> protocol. I get a similar error in Amarok when I try to apply a cover to
>> an album from the local disk. It seems all KDE4-based application are
>> affected.
>>
>> Does anybody what's causing this behavior and know how to solve it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jörg
>
>
>

Try running the apps from command line, using '--nofork' and/or
'--debug' where/if applicable.  Try to reproduce the behavior and see
if something potentially relevant is printed out.