Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-31 Thread damian
Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your response. I'll try to make some time to test your tips.

 You can also try booting a Fedora/Ubuntu/SuSE LiveCD, and see if with
 their kernel the same happens (given that suspend works on their
 LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports, that
 can give us a hint.
That I can try, I still keep the Ubuntu (shame on me! :P) which I used
to install Gentoo.

Best regards,
Damian.



Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-31 Thread damian
 LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports, that
 can give us a hint.
 That I can try, I still keep the Ubuntu (shame on me! :P) which I used
 to install Gentoo.
Nope. I've booted with Ubuntu (damn it boots slow! :P) and after
suspending the usb port was still yielding power. I guess it's better
for me to find out if there actually is a way to prevent this.


 Best regards,
 Damian.




Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-31 Thread Robert Bridge
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:42:54 +0100
damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote:

  LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports,
  that can give us a hint.
  That I can try, I still keep the Ubuntu (shame on me! :P) which I
  used to install Gentoo.
 Nope. I've booted with Ubuntu (damn it boots slow! :P) and after
 suspending the usb port was still yielding power. I guess it's better
 for me to find out if there actually is a way to prevent this.
 
 
  Best regards,
  Damian.

I think USB ports normally give power even without the appropriate
driver loaded. I know I have seen old computers used to charge USB
devices they couldn't communicate with...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-30 Thread Daniel Troeder
Hi Damian,

please note, that I'm no kernel (or USB) expert - just guessing around
from experience...

Am Samstag, den 27.12.2008, 14:48 +0100 schrieb damian:
  Try enabling or disabling USB_SUSPEND (Device Drivers-USB
  support-USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup) in your kernel.
 It was already enabled.
Try disabling it :)

  If that does not help, unloading the USB and wireless drivers before
  suspend should do the trick.
 I added this line to /etc/hibernate/common.conf
 UnloadModules  usb-ohci
OHCI is nowadays just the USB-1-companion of EHCI, which is the driver
for USB-2. EHCI listens on your USB-ports, and activated OHCI only when
a USB-1-device is being connected. You should unload both. That is
probably only possible, after unload all other usb-related modules :(

 But no luck. I don't know if I should add
 UnloadAllModules yes
  instead, just to be sure :D
You could try that - if it works, begin removing modules selectively :)

  If you use sys-power/pm-utils for suspend  hibernate, you can add
  kernel modules for automatic removal before suspend to SUSPEND_MODULES
  in /etc/pm/config.d/modules.
 I have sys-power/pm-utils installed, but no file  named
 /etc/pm/config.d/modules.
You can create it, and put into it a single line:
SUSPEND_MODULES=iwl3945 mac80211
(my line ;)

  Anyway, I have USB support built in into the
 kernel, should I compile it as modules?
That would make sense :)

You can also try booting a Fedora/Ubuntu/SuSE LiveCD, and see if with
their kernel the same happens (given that suspend works on their
LiveCD). If they manage to switch off the power to your USB-ports, that
can give us a hint.

Bye,
Daniel



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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-27 Thread damian
Hi Daniel,

 Try enabling or disabling USB_SUSPEND (Device Drivers-USB
 support-USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup) in your kernel.
It was already enabled.

 If that does not help, unloading the USB and wireless drivers before
 suspend should do the trick.
I added this line to /etc/hibernate/common.conf
UnloadModules  usb-ohci

But no luck. I don't know if I should add
UnloadAllModules yes
 instead, just to be sure :D

 If you use sys-power/pm-utils for suspend  hibernate, you can add
 kernel modules for automatic removal before suspend to SUSPEND_MODULES
 in /etc/pm/config.d/modules.
I have sys-power/pm-utils installed, but no file  named
/etc/pm/config.d/modules. Anyway, I have USB support built in into the
kernel, should I compile it as modules?

Best regards,
Damian.



Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 December 2008 16:04:34 damian wrote:
 Hi,

 When I suspend to ram my laptop I've noticed the usb ports still yield
 energy (the light of my external hard drive stays on) and also the led
 of the wired network device is on. Is this supposed to happen? I think
 it should be a problem because the laptop consumes more energy that
 way. Does anybody know how to solve it?

Sounds like wake up from usb and wake up on lan is working. Either that or 
your devices did not go to sleep properly and are still awake.

Do you get any hits from Google using those terms or similar ones?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-21 Thread damian
Hi Alan,

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday 21 December 2008 16:04:34 damian wrote:
 Hi,

 When I suspend to ram my laptop I've noticed the usb ports still yield
 energy (the light of my external hard drive stays on) and also the led
 of the wired network device is on. Is this supposed to happen? I think
 it should be a problem because the laptop consumes more energy that
 way. Does anybody know how to solve it?

 Sounds like wake up from usb and wake up on lan is working. Either that or
 your devices did not go to sleep properly and are still awake.

 Do you get any hits from Google using those terms or similar ones?
No luck so far :(. I'll keep on looking.

Best,
Damian.



Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to ram: correct behavior?

2008-12-21 Thread Daniel Troeder
Am Sonntag, den 21.12.2008, 15:04 +0100 schrieb damian:
 When I suspend to ram my laptop I've noticed the usb ports still yield
 energy (the light of my external hard drive stays on) and also the led
 of the wired network device is on. Is this supposed to happen? I think
 it should be a problem because the laptop consumes more energy that
 way. Does anybody know how to solve it?
Try enabling or disabling USB_SUSPEND (Device Drivers-USB
support-USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup) in your kernel.

If that does not help, unloading the USB and wireless drivers before
suspend should do the trick.
If you use sys-power/pm-utils for suspend  hibernate, you can add
kernel modules for automatic removal before suspend to SUSPEND_MODULES
in /etc/pm/config.d/modules.

Bye,
Daniel


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