Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:37 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 22:40 -0600, Joseph wrote:
  What is the best way to transfer content of an old HD to a new one
  bigger one?
 
 what are you transferring the win98 stuff to? win98, windows-other,
 gentoo?

Unfortunately yes, :-(  I have to stick to that windows 98 for a bit
longer till I find a replacement for Dental Program for my wife.
The computer is running only Windows 98 with one dental program. 

 in any case, make the new hd your primary one (primary master), and the
 old one secondary (primary slave or secondary master).  The boot to your
 new hd, mount your old hd, and copy!

The easiest method to transfer would be to install new drive as master
change the existing one old one as slave.
Boot from Knoppix CD and do:
# dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda

Reboot the computer and that should do it I think.  Did I miss anything?

 
  I do not subscribe to software vendor program as I intent to move the
  whole system to Linux (if I find a suitable dental program as I'm
  hostage of this program) so if I reinstall the program from the CD
  those
  changes will be gone. 
 
 However, if you _don't_ reinstall from CD, you may miss some essential
 registry settings and other stuff that windows puts all over the place.
 I'd recommend reinstalling from CD, then copying your old contents over
 the newly installed one.

What is what I'm afraid of.  Did anybody performed this operation?

 
 Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
 I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
 appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any money...

I know they don't want to spend much money of the program as the program
are very expensive.  The most important thing Dentists want from their
programs is the ability to submit the claim electronically as they get
paid faster; and basic recording operations for medical program.

Best alternative I've found are:
1.) http://www.open-dent.com/
Though, this misinformed dentist settle on MS NET Framework so it can
not be use with Linux as of yet, so even though it is GPL program it is
useless for me.

2.)  http://www.oemr.org/
This is intended for medical mostly but I think can be customized for
dental use as well.  I haven't test it yet as in order to use it you
need to have PHP4 (they don't support PHP5 yet).
Another advantage in OEMR, it is using SQL-Ledger for accounting, which
we are using currently so it is an advantage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:37 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
 I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
 appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any
 money...

I forgot to mention, they are using some kind of MaxiDent program; it
doesn't do much besides recording basic operation about dental
procedures billing codes etc.
All it does it matches the procedure dentist perform on a patient
against code so the can submit the claim electronically or print it on
the form and send it to insurance company for claim.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 23:51 -0600, Joseph wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:37 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 22:40 -0600, Joseph wrote:
   What is the best way to transfer content of an old HD to a new one
   bigger one?
  
  what are you transferring the win98 stuff to? win98, windows-other,
  gentoo?
 
 Unfortunately yes, :-(  I have to stick to that windows 98 for a bit
 longer till I find a replacement for Dental Program for my wife.
 The computer is running only Windows 98 with one dental program. 

 The easiest method to transfer would be to install new drive as master
 change the existing one old one as slave.
 Boot from Knoppix CD and do:
 # dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda
 
 Reboot the computer and that should do it I think.  Did I miss anything?

No, don't do it this way, as you won't be able to use any extra space.
Windows 98 uses FAT32, which is very well supported under linux.

I would do it like this:

1. Install windows on new HD.
2. Install old HD (after you've installed windows)
3. boot to knoppix (or similar)
4. mount new and old HD
5. cp -a /mnt/old/whatever /mnt/new

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:38 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  The easiest method to transfer would be to install new drive as
 master
  change the existing one old one as slave.
  Boot from Knoppix CD and do:
  # dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda
  
  Reboot the computer and that should do it I think.  Did I miss
 anything?
 
 No, don't do it this way, as you won't be able to use any extra space.
 Windows 98 uses FAT32, which is very well supported under linux.

Utilizing extra space shouldn't be that hard, by partitioning new HD
disk portion as new drive.  

 
 I would do it like this:
 
 1. Install windows on new HD.
 2. Install old HD (after you've installed windows)
 3. boot to knoppix (or similar)
 4. mount new and old HD
 5. cp -a /mnt/old/whatever /mnt/new

I'll give it a shot as you suggest it, thanks. 

My idea would be to install Dental program on Linux and post it on the
net the procedure; I'm sure more than few Dentists would take an
advantage of it and free them from Windows oppression  :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 00:24 -0600, Joseph wrote:

 My idea would be to install Dental program on Linux and post it on the
 net the procedure; I'm sure more than few Dentists would take an
 advantage of it and free them from Windows oppression  :-/

have you tried wine?  make sure you have a backup, then copy your old hd
to your linux partition, and run wine from it.  If it's a simple app it
should work ok...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Bogo Mipps
On Friday 02 June 2006 17:07, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
 I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
 appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any money...

http://www.soeidental.com/

Bogo

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:24:58 -0600, Joseph wrote:

  No, don't do it this way, as you won't be able to use any extra space.
  Windows 98 uses FAT32, which is very well supported under linux.
 
 Utilizing extra space shouldn't be that hard, by partitioning new HD
 disk portion as new drive.  

You can use QTparted to resize the partition after copying.

Using dd should keep files in the same location, which matters with some
Windows system files.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-01 Thread Ryan Tandy

Joseph wrote:

I could do disk image and transfer it over to a new HD but the disk
image will not utilize the whole new HD space; the remaining space I
could activate as a new drive I think.
What else could I try?



Do the image transfer, and then try using parted to resize the filesystem.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-01 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 22:40 -0600, Joseph wrote:
 What is the best way to transfer content of an old HD to a new one
 bigger one?

what are you transferring the win98 stuff to? win98, windows-other,
gentoo?

in any case, make the new hd your primary one (primary master), and the
old one secondary (primary slave or secondary master).  The boot to your
new hd, mount your old hd, and copy!

 I do not subscribe to software vendor program as I intent to move the
 whole system to Linux (if I find a suitable dental program as I'm
 hostage of this program) so if I reinstall the program from the CD
 those
 changes will be gone. 

However, if you _don't_ reinstall from CD, you may miss some essential
registry settings and other stuff that windows puts all over the place.
I'd recommend reinstalling from CD, then copying your old contents over
the newly installed one.

Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any money...

cya,
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