Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
On Sunday, 23 June 2019 04:40:33 BST Dale wrote: > I plan to re-engineer my TV so I can have external > speakers on it next. That I plan to have a small sub and a pair of two > ways for. Before you re-engineer the wheel, you may want to look at using your amplifier as an external AVR to play audio straight from your source over HDMI, while passing the video to the TV. All smart TVs are capable of selecting internal of external speakers/AVR system for the audio. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
Dale wrote: > <<< SNIP >>> > Thanks much. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > I been playing with this a while. I finally figured out some things that makes this almost perfect. First, I set up the TV output to run as a second display to the right of my main display. My main monitor is Screen 0. My TV is Screen 1. That allows me to watch TV at a lower resolution that the splitter works well at while my monitor runs at the highest resolution. That got me to where I can watch TV pretty easy. When I open Smplayer, I just tell it to move to Screen 1 and to the TV it goes, sound and all. The one thing that bugged me is that I had to be on the desktop where I started Smplayer to watch it. I couldn't for example be surfing the internet and glance over at the TV to see something if I was on a different desktop. Then it hit me, there is a way somewhere to set it to be seen on all desktops. I dug around until I found it. It's in the upper left hand corner on my KDE. I think that is the default. When one puts their mouse pointer on it, it says "On all desktops". If you click that, it then makes the video going to the TV viewable on all desktops. I can surf the internet, play Kpatience or whatever and glance over at the TV to see something without switching desktops. I wanted to share this in case someone is searching for tips on this and finds this thread. I hope it will help someone else. [OT] I'm building speakers for my puter. I started cutting the wood today but had to glue some stuff. I'm waiting for it to dry real good. I'm surfing around for ways to attach the back and it be easy to remove but be secure. I'm thinking of using bolts and having those t nuts inside to screw into. That way I can take it apart easily. It's a small project but it goes all the way across the back of my desktop and I plan to set my monitor on top of it to raise it up a bit. Just thinking some things out here. I'm building because I'm tired of those crappy speakers I been getting for this. I'm using a two way 5 1/4" speaker that is supposed to go in a car. It's small but it's bigger than the 2 1/2 maybe 3" things in my old set that went out. My amp is a separate device too. I plan to re-engineer my TV so I can have external speakers on it next. That I plan to have a small sub and a pair of two ways for. I got to much time on my hands right now. ROFL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
Hi, >From what it says, it duplicates any of those. I don't have a 4K device but if I did, it should be able to split one signal and display the same image on both devices. According to the info for the device, it takes the highest resolution that both output devices have in common and the input can supply. It doesn't split into two different images tho. If I had a Blu-ray player, I bet I could use that to display on both TVs at full resolution. As I mentioned in another reply, it is the video card/OS that is not detecting correctly. I did get it to work but only at a slightly lower resolution. I plan to try higher ones when I get time and feel up to it. I been up to long and my back bone is telling me to go horizontal for a while. It's speaking in a language I understand all to well. Ouch!! Time will tell if I get this to work at full resolution or not. If not, it's still HD. It's perfectly acceptable. I may even upgrade my video card one day and it may work fine. It may even work fine if the drivers update later on. Either way, I got it working good enough. Dale :-) :-) mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > as i read the description, it splits a 4K image into 4 seperate 2K signals > for 4 individual 2K displays, i.e. a "Video wall", using 4 2K displays to > fake a 4K display. This does not appear to be what you wanted. You want the > same signal going more than one place without reformatting/division. > > "Would you like to see us rule again, my friend? All you have to do is > follow the worms." Pink Floyd, The Wall, Waiting for the worms > > > > > Jun 19, 2019, 3:43 PM by ostrof...@users.sourceforge.net: > >> On 2019.06.19 17:35, Dale wrote: >> >>> Jack wrote: On 2019.06.19 15:43, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I have a video issue here. I recently cut off DirecTV service and now > watch from my puter, all those hard drives people know me for. As some > know, my Mom died recently so I want to make use of the living room TV > as well. I bought a splitter that takes one input and outputs to 4. > The outputs all have the same pic, it just splits the signal. When I > got the first one, it didn't work. I tried every which way but > nothing. Lights came on etc but no signal. I contacted the seller and > he thought the box was bad so he sent a replacement. Well, it was no > better. No worky. > > I then decided to test it a different way. Even tho I don't have > DirecTV service, it should give some sort of screen so I used the > DirecTV box instead of my puter. Finding the power plug was fun I might > add. When I used it, it worked fine. It even worked with the VERY long > cable I bought to use for the living room TV. So, the splitter does in > fact work but not with my puter's video card. > > This brings me to three paths. Is there something I need to change in a > config for this to work or is there some special requirement for the > puter's video card or is a special splitter needed? Which is at fault, > the splitter not being compatible or the video card not being > compatible, either by config or just hardware? > > If no answer to that, I searched but can't find a triple or quad HDMI > output card that isn't like buying gold. Is there such a thing at a > reasonable cost? I'm fine with used and it doesn't have to be the > greatest, I watch TV and play Kpatience. I suspect the TV is the > largest load it sees and even that isn't much. This is the video card > made by MSI: > > VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] > > Any thoughts on this? Different video card or different splitter or > better yet, a change in a config file? Dale, You don't say what are the outputs of that card? Searching shows me several possibilities, but all have more than one output connector. If that's the case, I would suggest using different outputs for your monitor and the TV. You might need an adaptor depending on whether the TV has a matching input. I think you would have to set up your DE to know about the two outputs, but then I think most video players can do things like put the controls on your monitor and the output on the TV. (I just set that up with a laptop with KDE and VLC. It wasn't trivial to get it right, but it was immediately obvious it could be done or at least come close enough to put up with.) To your original question, I don't have any solid idea why the TV isn't receiving a signal from the splitter. I assume you are sure the TV is set to the correct input connector. Have you tried switching which splitter outputs go to each device, and try only one device connected at a time? Have you tried connecting your video card ONLY to the TV instead of the monitor. That would tell
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
as i read the description, it splits a 4K image into 4 seperate 2K signals for 4 individual 2K displays, i.e. a "Video wall", using 4 2K displays to fake a 4K display. This does not appear to be what you wanted. You want the same signal going more than one place without reformatting/division. "Would you like to see us rule again, my friend? All you have to do is follow the worms." Pink Floyd, The Wall, Waiting for the worms Jun 19, 2019, 3:43 PM by ostrof...@users.sourceforge.net: > On 2019.06.19 17:35, Dale wrote: > >> Jack wrote: >> > On 2019.06.19 15:43, Dale wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> >> >> >> I have a video issue here. I recently cut off DirecTV service and now >> >> watch from my puter, all those hard drives people know me for. As some >> >> know, my Mom died recently so I want to make use of the living room TV >> >> as well. I bought a splitter that takes one input and outputs to 4. >> >> The outputs all have the same pic, it just splits the signal. When I >> >> got the first one, it didn't work. I tried every which way but >> >> nothing. Lights came on etc but no signal. I contacted the seller and >> >> he thought the box was bad so he sent a replacement. Well, it was no >> >> better. No worky. >> >> >> >> I then decided to test it a different way. Even tho I don't have >> >> DirecTV service, it should give some sort of screen so I used the >> >> DirecTV box instead of my puter. Finding the power plug was fun I might >> >> add. When I used it, it worked fine. It even worked with the VERY long >> >> cable I bought to use for the living room TV. So, the splitter does in >> >> fact work but not with my puter's video card. >> >> >> >> This brings me to three paths. Is there something I need to change in a >> >> config for this to work or is there some special requirement for the >> >> puter's video card or is a special splitter needed? Which is at fault, >> >> the splitter not being compatible or the video card not being >> >> compatible, either by config or just hardware? >> >> >> >> If no answer to that, I searched but can't find a triple or quad HDMI >> >> output card that isn't like buying gold. Is there such a thing at a >> >> reasonable cost? I'm fine with used and it doesn't have to be the >> >> greatest, I watch TV and play Kpatience. I suspect the TV is the >> >> largest load it sees and even that isn't much. This is the video card >> >> made by MSI: >> >> >> >> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on this? Different video card or different splitter or >> >> better yet, a change in a config file? >> > Dale, >> > >> > You don't say what are the outputs of that card? Searching shows me >> > several possibilities, but all have more than one output connector. >> > If that's the case, I would suggest using different outputs for your >> > monitor and the TV. You might need an adaptor depending on whether >> > the TV has a matching input. I think you would have to set up your DE >> > to know about the two outputs, but then I think most video players can >> > do things like put the controls on your monitor and the output on the >> > TV. (I just set that up with a laptop with KDE and VLC. It wasn't >> > trivial to get it right, but it was immediately obvious it could be >> > done or at least come close enough to put up with.) >> > >> > To your original question, I don't have any solid idea why the TV >> > isn't receiving a signal from the splitter. I assume you are sure the >> > TV is set to the correct input connector. Have you tried switching >> > which splitter outputs go to each device, and try only one device >> > connected at a time? Have you tried connecting your video card ONLY >> > to the TV instead of the monitor. That would tell you if there is any >> > inherent incompatability between what the card is putting out and what >> > the TV can use. Can the TV handle the resolution the card is displaying? >> > >> > Jack >> > >> >> >> I should have mentioned this in my original post. My monitor is >> connected by using the DB15HD connector from the video card. It's a >> short cable and at the time, it was what I had. Later I added the TV >> but it is HDMI all the way. I have both outputs set to display the same >> screen. They are duplicated I guess is the clearest way to say that. >> It's the HDMI that I'm trying to split since both TVs have that >> connection and the signals can reach that far, not sure a DB15HD can do >> that far. Living room TV is about 50' away. The cable does work tho. >> I tested it from the satellite box. >> >> The video card has a DB15HD, that goes to the monitor, and a single HDMI >> output that I use for the TV. When I test the splitter, I unhook the TV >> cable and connect the splitter. I then connect the previous cable to >> the TV to the output of the splitter. Right now, I'm only testing with >> one TV. Both TVs are virtually identical but I wanted
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
Jack wrote: > On 2019.06.19 17:35, Dale wrote: >> Jack wrote: >> > On 2019.06.19 15:43, Dale wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> >> >> >> I have a video issue here. I recently cut off DirecTV service and >> now >> >> watch from my puter, all those hard drives people know me for. As >> some >> >> know, my Mom died recently so I want to make use of the living >> room TV >> >> as well. I bought a splitter that takes one input and outputs to 4. >> >> The outputs all have the same pic, it just splits the signal. When I >> >> got the first one, it didn't work. I tried every which way but >> >> nothing. Lights came on etc but no signal. I contacted the >> seller and >> >> he thought the box was bad so he sent a replacement. Well, it was no >> >> better. No worky. >> >> >> >> I then decided to test it a different way. Even tho I don't have >> >> DirecTV service, it should give some sort of screen so I used the >> >> DirecTV box instead of my puter. Finding the power plug was fun I >> might >> >> add. When I used it, it worked fine. It even worked with the >> VERY long >> >> cable I bought to use for the living room TV. So, the splitter >> does in >> >> fact work but not with my puter's video card. >> >> >> >> This brings me to three paths. Is there something I need to >> change in a >> >> config for this to work or is there some special requirement for the >> >> puter's video card or is a special splitter needed? Which is at >> fault, >> >> the splitter not being compatible or the video card not being >> >> compatible, either by config or just hardware? >> >> >> >> If no answer to that, I searched but can't find a triple or quad HDMI >> >> output card that isn't like buying gold. Is there such a thing at a >> >> reasonable cost? I'm fine with used and it doesn't have to be the >> >> greatest, I watch TV and play Kpatience. I suspect the TV is the >> >> largest load it sees and even that isn't much. This is the video >> card >> >> made by MSI: >> >> >> >> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on this? Different video card or different splitter or >> >> better yet, a change in a config file? >> > Dale, >> > >> > You don't say what are the outputs of that card? Searching shows me >> > several possibilities, but all have more than one output connector. >> > If that's the case, I would suggest using different outputs for your >> > monitor and the TV. You might need an adaptor depending on whether >> > the TV has a matching input. I think you would have to set up your DE >> > to know about the two outputs, but then I think most video players can >> > do things like put the controls on your monitor and the output on the >> > TV. (I just set that up with a laptop with KDE and VLC. It wasn't >> > trivial to get it right, but it was immediately obvious it could be >> > done or at least come close enough to put up with.) >> > >> > To your original question, I don't have any solid idea why the TV >> > isn't receiving a signal from the splitter. I assume you are sure the >> > TV is set to the correct input connector. Have you tried switching >> > which splitter outputs go to each device, and try only one device >> > connected at a time? Have you tried connecting your video card ONLY >> > to the TV instead of the monitor. That would tell you if there is any >> > inherent incompatability between what the card is putting out and what >> > the TV can use. Can the TV handle the resolution the card is >> displaying? >> > >> > Jack >> > >> >> >> I should have mentioned this in my original post. My monitor is >> connected by using the DB15HD connector from the video card. It's a >> short cable and at the time, it was what I had. Later I added the TV >> but it is HDMI all the way. I have both outputs set to display the same >> screen. They are duplicated I guess is the clearest way to say that. >> It's the HDMI that I'm trying to split since both TVs have that >> connection and the signals can reach that far, not sure a DB15HD can do >> that far. Living room TV is about 50' away. The cable does work tho. >> I tested it from the satellite box. >> >> The video card has a DB15HD, that goes to the monitor, and a single HDMI >> output that I use for the TV. When I test the splitter, I unhook the TV >> cable and connect the splitter. I then connect the previous cable to >> the TV to the output of the splitter. Right now, I'm only testing with >> one TV. Both TVs are virtually identical but I wanted to keep it simple >> at first. When I try to test the splitter, the video card goes to the >> input of the splitter and the output of the splitter goes to a single >> TV. If that had worked, I was then going to add the second TV but I've >> yet to get one to work yet. >> >> That make sense? It's difficult to describe in text at times and then >> the reader has to make sense of the text as well. It can be complicated >> at times. lol > That's a
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
On 2019.06.19 17:35, Dale wrote: Jack wrote: > On 2019.06.19 15:43, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I have a video issue here. I recently cut off DirecTV service and now >> watch from my puter, all those hard drives people know me for. As some >> know, my Mom died recently so I want to make use of the living room TV >> as well. I bought a splitter that takes one input and outputs to 4. >> The outputs all have the same pic, it just splits the signal. When I >> got the first one, it didn't work. I tried every which way but >> nothing. Lights came on etc but no signal. I contacted the seller and >> he thought the box was bad so he sent a replacement. Well, it was no >> better. No worky. >> >> I then decided to test it a different way. Even tho I don't have >> DirecTV service, it should give some sort of screen so I used the >> DirecTV box instead of my puter. Finding the power plug was fun I might >> add. When I used it, it worked fine. It even worked with the VERY long >> cable I bought to use for the living room TV. So, the splitter does in >> fact work but not with my puter's video card. >> >> This brings me to three paths. Is there something I need to change in a >> config for this to work or is there some special requirement for the >> puter's video card or is a special splitter needed? Which is at fault, >> the splitter not being compatible or the video card not being >> compatible, either by config or just hardware? >> >> If no answer to that, I searched but can't find a triple or quad HDMI >> output card that isn't like buying gold. Is there such a thing at a >> reasonable cost? I'm fine with used and it doesn't have to be the >> greatest, I watch TV and play Kpatience. I suspect the TV is the >> largest load it sees and even that isn't much. This is the video card >> made by MSI: >> >> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] >> >> Any thoughts on this? Different video card or different splitter or >> better yet, a change in a config file? > Dale, > > You don't say what are the outputs of that card? Searching shows me > several possibilities, but all have more than one output connector. > If that's the case, I would suggest using different outputs for your > monitor and the TV. You might need an adaptor depending on whether > the TV has a matching input. I think you would have to set up your DE > to know about the two outputs, but then I think most video players can > do things like put the controls on your monitor and the output on the > TV. (I just set that up with a laptop with KDE and VLC. It wasn't > trivial to get it right, but it was immediately obvious it could be > done or at least come close enough to put up with.) > > To your original question, I don't have any solid idea why the TV > isn't receiving a signal from the splitter. I assume you are sure the > TV is set to the correct input connector. Have you tried switching > which splitter outputs go to each device, and try only one device > connected at a time? Have you tried connecting your video card ONLY > to the TV instead of the monitor. That would tell you if there is any > inherent incompatability between what the card is putting out and what > the TV can use. Can the TV handle the resolution the card is displaying? > > Jack > I should have mentioned this in my original post. My monitor is connected by using the DB15HD connector from the video card. It's a short cable and at the time, it was what I had. Later I added the TV but it is HDMI all the way. I have both outputs set to display the same screen. They are duplicated I guess is the clearest way to say that. It's the HDMI that I'm trying to split since both TVs have that connection and the signals can reach that far, not sure a DB15HD can do that far. Living room TV is about 50' away. The cable does work tho. I tested it from the satellite box. The video card has a DB15HD, that goes to the monitor, and a single HDMI output that I use for the TV. When I test the splitter, I unhook the TV cable and connect the splitter. I then connect the previous cable to the TV to the output of the splitter. Right now, I'm only testing with one TV. Both TVs are virtually identical but I wanted to keep it simple at first. When I try to test the splitter, the video card goes to the input of the splitter and the output of the splitter goes to a single TV. If that had worked, I was then going to add the second TV but I've yet to get one to work yet. That make sense? It's difficult to describe in text at times and then the reader has to make sense of the text as well. It can be complicated at times. lol That's a better explanation. So the HDMI output works OK when directly connected to either TV, but not when either TV is connected through the splitter? If so, at least you know the TV handles the signal from the card.
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
Jack wrote: > On 2019.06.19 15:43, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I have a video issue here. I recently cut off DirecTV service and now >> watch from my puter, all those hard drives people know me for. As some >> know, my Mom died recently so I want to make use of the living room TV >> as well. I bought a splitter that takes one input and outputs to 4. >> The outputs all have the same pic, it just splits the signal. When I >> got the first one, it didn't work. I tried every which way but >> nothing. Lights came on etc but no signal. I contacted the seller and >> he thought the box was bad so he sent a replacement. Well, it was no >> better. No worky. >> >> I then decided to test it a different way. Even tho I don't have >> DirecTV service, it should give some sort of screen so I used the >> DirecTV box instead of my puter. Finding the power plug was fun I might >> add. When I used it, it worked fine. It even worked with the VERY long >> cable I bought to use for the living room TV. So, the splitter does in >> fact work but not with my puter's video card. >> >> This brings me to three paths. Is there something I need to change in a >> config for this to work or is there some special requirement for the >> puter's video card or is a special splitter needed? Which is at fault, >> the splitter not being compatible or the video card not being >> compatible, either by config or just hardware? >> >> If no answer to that, I searched but can't find a triple or quad HDMI >> output card that isn't like buying gold. Is there such a thing at a >> reasonable cost? I'm fine with used and it doesn't have to be the >> greatest, I watch TV and play Kpatience. I suspect the TV is the >> largest load it sees and even that isn't much. This is the video card >> made by MSI: >> >> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] >> >> Any thoughts on this? Different video card or different splitter or >> better yet, a change in a config file? > Dale, > > You don't say what are the outputs of that card? Searching shows me > several possibilities, but all have more than one output connector. > If that's the case, I would suggest using different outputs for your > monitor and the TV. You might need an adaptor depending on whether > the TV has a matching input. I think you would have to set up your DE > to know about the two outputs, but then I think most video players can > do things like put the controls on your monitor and the output on the > TV. (I just set that up with a laptop with KDE and VLC. It wasn't > trivial to get it right, but it was immediately obvious it could be > done or at least come close enough to put up with.) > > To your original question, I don't have any solid idea why the TV > isn't receiving a signal from the splitter. I assume you are sure the > TV is set to the correct input connector. Have you tried switching > which splitter outputs go to each device, and try only one device > connected at a time? Have you tried connecting your video card ONLY > to the TV instead of the monitor. That would tell you if there is any > inherent incompatability between what the card is putting out and what > the TV can use. Can the TV handle the resolution the card is displaying? > > Jack > I should have mentioned this in my original post. My monitor is connected by using the DB15HD connector from the video card. It's a short cable and at the time, it was what I had. Later I added the TV but it is HDMI all the way. I have both outputs set to display the same screen. They are duplicated I guess is the clearest way to say that. It's the HDMI that I'm trying to split since both TVs have that connection and the signals can reach that far, not sure a DB15HD can do that far. Living room TV is about 50' away. The cable does work tho. I tested it from the satellite box. The video card has a DB15HD, that goes to the monitor, and a single HDMI output that I use for the TV. When I test the splitter, I unhook the TV cable and connect the splitter. I then connect the previous cable to the TV to the output of the splitter. Right now, I'm only testing with one TV. Both TVs are virtually identical but I wanted to keep it simple at first. When I try to test the splitter, the video card goes to the input of the splitter and the output of the splitter goes to a single TV. If that had worked, I was then going to add the second TV but I've yet to get one to work yet. That make sense? It's difficult to describe in text at times and then the reader has to make sense of the text as well. It can be complicated at times. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Video card, splitter and issues.
On 2019.06.19 15:43, Dale wrote: Howdy, I have a video issue here. I recently cut off DirecTV service and now watch from my puter, all those hard drives people know me for. As some know, my Mom died recently so I want to make use of the living room TV as well. I bought a splitter that takes one input and outputs to 4. The outputs all have the same pic, it just splits the signal. When I got the first one, it didn't work. I tried every which way but nothing. Lights came on etc but no signal. I contacted the seller and he thought the box was bad so he sent a replacement. Well, it was no better. No worky. I then decided to test it a different way. Even tho I don't have DirecTV service, it should give some sort of screen so I used the DirecTV box instead of my puter. Finding the power plug was fun I might add. When I used it, it worked fine. It even worked with the VERY long cable I bought to use for the living room TV. So, the splitter does in fact work but not with my puter's video card. This brings me to three paths. Is there something I need to change in a config for this to work or is there some special requirement for the puter's video card or is a special splitter needed? Which is at fault, the splitter not being compatible or the video card not being compatible, either by config or just hardware? If no answer to that, I searched but can't find a triple or quad HDMI output card that isn't like buying gold. Is there such a thing at a reasonable cost? I'm fine with used and it doesn't have to be the greatest, I watch TV and play Kpatience. I suspect the TV is the largest load it sees and even that isn't much. This is the video card made by MSI: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GTX 650] Any thoughts on this? Different video card or different splitter or better yet, a change in a config file? Dale, You don't say what are the outputs of that card? Searching shows me several possibilities, but all have more than one output connector. If that's the case, I would suggest using different outputs for your monitor and the TV. You might need an adaptor depending on whether the TV has a matching input. I think you would have to set up your DE to know about the two outputs, but then I think most video players can do things like put the controls on your monitor and the output on the TV. (I just set that up with a laptop with KDE and VLC. It wasn't trivial to get it right, but it was immediately obvious it could be done or at least come close enough to put up with.) To your original question, I don't have any solid idea why the TV isn't receiving a signal from the splitter. I assume you are sure the TV is set to the correct input connector. Have you tried switching which splitter outputs go to each device, and try only one device connected at a time? Have you tried connecting your video card ONLY to the TV instead of the monitor. That would tell you if there is any inherent incompatability between what the card is putting out and what the TV can use. Can the TV handle the resolution the card is displaying? Jack
