Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
On Saturday 09 September 2006 02:33, John J. Foster wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:33:40PM -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average Well, I *couldn't* be a grandmother, because I am a grandfather who has pretty much no clue what average is. And I *could* be a grandfather if only I'd had kids when regular sane people have them, but I didn't, and now my son's only 9 so I get to wait another 10 years at least... But back to topic. Colleen's answer seems to me pretty representative of why most folk do Gentoo, myself included. With one extra reason - I'm a total propellor-head and Gentoo lets me fiddle all day long to my heart's content; and when I break it, Gentoo lets me fix it. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Responding to all, sorry [user] control compiler optimizations (I run on P4 Xeon) it was the first distro I found whose kernels didn't mess up the Xeon CPU throttling stuff and randomly start running at 10% speed glutton for pain (I hate worrying about all those ewarns and config files for things I never even knew I had, let alone how they were configured) -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[user] Portage Handbook, it dragged me out of the dull and darkness that I was living in and because... it works!! 99% of the times it didn't work was because of me. -- Rodrigo Lazo (rlazo) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Saturday 09 September 2006 07:49, Rodrigo Lazo wrote: [user] Portage Handbook, it dragged me out of the dull and darkness that I was living in and because... it works!! 99% of the times it didn't work was because of me. Okay I've taken the bait. This is the same reason I love Gentoo. The bugs (outside of portage) are MY bugs. Other distros might have strange interaction problems because of patches they add for usability or stability, but in Gentoo the bugs are MINE. I own the bugs. It's up to me to push to get them fixed or find workarounds, because either I'm doing something wrong or there is an honest to goodness bug in the app. -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [Timothy A. Holmes] [user] I reply here because I, like others am interested in the responses as well Documentation CONTROL -- configure it the way I want it Great user support Fun challenge Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:40 -0400, Statux wrote: [snip] All responses off list please. Thanks. [snip] Just pointing that one out as 2 people have missed it already :) what about everyone else who might be interested in the answer? I should assume that Chris intends to collect the data and publish it. Although in my opinion he should have mentioned what he will do with it. Mikko -- Mikko Ruuska, R D Solid Information Technology -- http://www.solidtech.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[user] Portage Streamlined installation -- U nstall what U want, exactly what U want ... Did I mention Portage :). ShawnOn 9/8/06, Mikko Ruuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2006, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:40 -0400, Statux wrote: [snip]All responses off list please.Thanks. [snip] Just pointing that one out as 2 people have missed it already :) what about everyone else who might be interested in the answer?I should assume that Chris intends to collect the data and publish it.Although in my opinion he should have mentioned what he will dowith it.Mikko--Mikko Ruuska, R DSolid Information Technology -- http://www.solidtech.com --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- ...to raise a signal means to turn the light on; ... Responding to a signal means turning the light off (and, under System V, hoping thebulb won't blow when it's next turned on)...--- Dan Bernstein
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
[Rafael Barrera Oro] [User] I entered the Linux world using SUSE, in time, it began to have humongous circular dependencies problems which drove me crazy. When i discover Gentoo, i found the portage system to be just what i was waiting for, an outstanding feature. Also: Love the G that looks like sorta like a pacman in the Gentoo logo Lots of documentation and support I am a user, but i sure would love to collaborate in some way in the future though -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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User I was attracted to Gentoo because it was different, and I'm attracted to things like that. Coming from a background of Slackware and Redhat, I fell in love with the ease of portage But I strongly believe one of the biggest strengths of Gentoo is this list. I have learned more from reading this list and from implementing suggestions and fixes from this list, than in my entire linux past. Finally, I'm very interested in embedded Linux, and Gentoo embeds wonderfully. I've built a robot running Gentoo out of a CF card, and the Gentoo structure is very well suited to that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[user]I use and stay with Gentoo because it is the distro that I started with. I was used to windows before I used Gentoo, let alone linux. Once I got out of the windows way of thinking, then Gentoo and linux just kind of feel a bit natural. I've stayed with Gentoo because I haven't seen a good reason to switch to another one. I like the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the masses, like Ubuntu, because the way things are done in those distros makes customization more difficult for advanced users. Also they are not as easy to tinker with. Gentoo worked for me when I was new, which was 6 years ago, and it works great for me now that I'm quite familiar with it inside and out.
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BTW, if you want to share your responses on-list, great, but you might want to be sure to CC Chris as well, as he requested responses off-list, indicating he may not read -user. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Chris White wrote: So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [user] I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average user. I was first exposed to Gentoo when someone I know was touting the control that it gave you. I *hate* Gnome (sorry, don't mean to insult any Gnome users - it's just a personal opinion). The bloat of having to have two desktops on my system drove me nuts when I was using Redhat and then, Fedora. So, like others, control is a *big* plus - I can install only what I want! Portage - in my opinion, it is the best package manager in Linux, bar none. In Redhat and Fedora, I was always in some sort of dependency hell. I learned how to get around most of it, but I don't have to worry with Gentoo. I would be royally [EMAIL PROTECTED] off if was force to use a package manager other than portage. Growth - I never edited a configuration file before using Gentoo, nor did I configure a kernel. Strange as it may sound, it was a trip for me to learn this stuff. I've learned more about my system and Linux in the year and a half of using it that I did in the 5 years that I used Redhat/Fedora. Documentation - Bar none, Gentoo has the best and most easily understood online documentation. In fact, I would rather read Gentoo documentation that that of the LDP! This list - I've always been able to turn to the list when I needed help, was exposed to more patience that on any other list that I have every been on - even those that were supposed to be for newbies. I've always gotten help and the explanation was put in a way that I could understand it (Thanks guys!) Sorry, I know this is long, but there are just too many reasons why I use Gentoo and why I will stick with it! :-) Take care, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:33:40PM -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average Well, I *couldn't* be a grandmother, because I am a grandfather who has pretty much no clue what average is. festus -- In all the millions of years dinosaurs roamed this planet, did any of them feel the need to invent, say, nuclear weapons? Mickeyz pgpcX86oj3Cxz.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
-Original Message- From: Colleen Beamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo Chris White wrote: So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [user] I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average user. I was first exposed to Gentoo when someone I know was touting the control that it gave you. I *hate* Gnome (sorry, don't mean to insult any Gnome users - it's just a personal opinion). The bloat of having to have two desktops on my system drove me nuts when I was using Redhat and then, Fedora. So, like others, control is a *big* plus - I can install only what I want! Nothing I can really disagree with. I *am* a grandfather, and have been a hardware/firmware engineer for 15 years. I've tried RedHat, SuSe, never could get past old Debian annoying text scripts that just got in the way of what was really important, long live Linux. Gentoo gets down to the technical details of actually installing a new OS as anything in the Linux World...period. Cheers. -- BYoung_AT_Debug1.Com Dual 2.0GHz AMD Opteron...cheers (dual boot 32bit Windows, 64bit Gentoo) ** Quote: *** Portage - in my opinion, it is the best package manager in Linux, bar none. Documentation - Bar none, Gentoo has the best and most easily understood online documentation This list - I've always been able to turn to the list when I needed help, (Thanks guys!) Sorry, I know this is long, but there are just too many reasons why I use Gentoo and why I will stick with it! :-) Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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darren kirby wrote: I do not see a problem if folks post here as long as they understand they should CC the OP if they want their responses considered for whatever it is the OP is doing...which I might add, would be nice to know. I don't want to sound unpolite, but the OP could more easily follow the 3d on the web. It's a public mailing list. I don't see why the OP could not follow common public ML etiquette... :) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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quoth the b.n.: darren kirby wrote: I do not see a problem if folks post here as long as they understand they should CC the OP if they want their responses considered for whatever it is the OP is doing...which I might add, would be nice to know. I don't want to sound unpolite, but the OP could more easily follow the 3d on the web. It's a public mailing list. I don't see why the OP could not follow common public ML etiquette... :) Hey! I agree with you. But just as we demand the right to post here if we want, the OP can demand the right to ask for private replies His loss if people can't be bothered to CC or post offlist, right? m. -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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darren kirby wrote: quoth the Dale: Plus some of us like to read them. ;-) Really... I do not see a problem if folks post here as long as they understand they should CC the OP if they want their responses considered for whatever it is the OP is doing...which I might add, would be nice to know. Dale :-) :-) -d I would like to know the same thing. I wonder if he is doing some king of statistics thing or something. Maybe he is the G man in disguise. O_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[user] source-based control documentaion -- In all the millions of years dinosaurs roamed this planet, did any of them feel the need to invent, say, nuclear weapons? Mickeyz pgpZU6ZPkxR79.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
On Thursday 07 September 2006 17:31, Chris White wrote: So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [user] [dev -wannabe] o high level of control o smaller memory footprint (saved my laptop from destruction) o amazingly good community o adequate administrative tools o it just plain old works (unless I do something to it - but that's my own fault) -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgpbk1uvw4bUW.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Thursday 07 September 2006 19:31, Chris White wrote: So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. Please read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:40 -0400, Statux wrote: [snip] All responses off list please. Thanks. [snip] Just pointing that one out as 2 people have missed it already :) what about everyone else who might be interested in the answer? -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Living on Earth may be expensive, but it includes an annual free trip around the Sun. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
